Shueisha Establishes Department Focused Exclusively on Dragon Ball


Created by Japanese mangaka, Akira Toriyama, Dragon Ball made its debut on November 20, 1984 in Shueisha’s Weekly Shonen Jump magazine. Almost 32 years later, the franchise has never been more popular. With brand new video games like Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 and a new series in Dragon ball Super, the phenomenon just keeps growing!

To optimize and continue expand this vast universe, Japanese publisher Shueisha announced it had created a new department called the “Dragon Ball Room” in June that focuses exclusively on Dragon Ball.

Akio Iyoku, the editor-in-chief of Shueisha’s V-Jump magazine – which currently plays host to the Dragon Ball Super manga – is heading the new department. The only ideas in the “Dragon Ball Room” are for Dragon Ball. Toriyama-sensei jokingly commented on the new department, saying “It’s really great that I don’t have to do anything now.”

Source: ANN, Mantan Web

  • Eh

  • Spirit of Vengeance

    Why do they keep using the same generic pictures for each article?

  • Scott Baker

    because gogeta hype inxenoverse 2?

  • Sakata Gintoki

    meh

  • Trunks

    The servers for the goddamn beta are literall fu****** horsesh!t

  • Scott Baker

    anyone eles having connection issues on xeno verse 2

  • Scott Baker

    ah so im not only one having issues as well

  • Trunks

    me. its because of cod

  • Scott Baker

    closed beta was fine i think its just proof that the massive volume cant handle it

  • goku super saiyan god

    Dimps shouldn’t do betas anymore because they suck at making servers

  • Photon

    Xeno > Storm

  • Gammy

    The server are still down?

  • Gent

    Hahahahaha

  • Gent

    Nope I think

  • Ghost Rider

    As long as they release stories that involve characters other than Goku for once I guess this would be a good idea.

  • Andrew Blagburn

    Just tried and nothing. :/

  • Scott Baker

    to many people trying play knew it was going happen steam will be worse when game comes out

  • Never die, DB, never die~

  • SilentSaiyan

    Been trying to connect for like 20 mins, god servers are trash.

  • Mysterious Man

    I don’t care what Naruto Storm fanboys think. A Naruto Musou needs to happen. Same for Dragon Ball too.

  • TETSUYA

    Kay

  • I really want them to make a series dedicated to bardocks childhood going to saiyan school.

  • TETSUYA

    No.

  • Gammy

    School?

  • Yes

  • We don’t know if saiyans go to school it was never shown.

  • SilentSaiyan

    I rather see a naruto game and dbz game thats open world and goes to the fullest extent to give us everything we ever wanted.

  • I’m talking about an anime about bardock childhood

  • This has so much potential hopefully it’s done right because we can get a mini series about everycharacter other than Goku also we can get a whole new manga with brand new characters plus it’s not just Toriyama it’s other people’s ideas. I want this series to get better plot everything

  • Yeah

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Yay.

  • We can get a lot out of this if it’s done right

  • Saiyan School?
    You mean like getting sent off to planets and wiping them out?

  • That too the possibilities are endless.

  • Sakata Gintoki

    i bet he has a framed picture of his first murder

  • Mr_Steven

    School? Lets not ruin the Saiyans.

  • Understand they can do anything since its other people’s ideas meaning what if they know how to write better than toriyama

  • I mean, the whole thing was the saiyans were sent off at young ages to wipe out planets, like Goku was.
    That’s already been established

  • I was hosting endless if you want me to invite when I get back on if you want?

  • I just want them to make the series flawless

  • Mr_Steven

    I prefer they send their young ones to a unknown area where they have to survive, the weak ones ends up dying. I’ll go with the big surprise that Bardock not only survives, but wipes out every creature in that area. From there he becomes one of their best.

  • If we get a whole new manga with new casts hopefully when it gets an anime it’s a seasonal anime so that the amines are really good

  • Mr_Steven

    If they make a Dragon Ball with brand new characters I’ll definitely watch that.

  • Smart idea you should work with them 🙂

  • Mr_Steven

    I’m kinda worry that Toriyama may have actually meant that.

  • It’s because they said they’ll expand. I want them to make the main race something new with a different transformation

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Doubt it.It’s the kind of joke he makes,he wont work on the series as much but his influence will still be there.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Sure why not my PSN is my name on here.

  • Mr_Steven

    Kinda of like GT, but hopefully good.

  • SilentSaiyan

    NVM got in.

  • I wouldn’t mind its better to get other people to add their own stories in the series to expand it.

  • SilentSaiyan

    After like a good 30 mins orm ore of trying. and waiting

  • I’ll get back on around 2:00pm make sure be there

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    All he did for GT was design the main cast and the main space ship they use that’s it.The story was 100% Toei.

  • I wonder what they’ll start with after super ends?

  • Di

    who watched lee vs sanji omm?

  • Mr_Steven

    That’s what I meant, other people will work on the series but he’ll come in every once in a while and help with character designs and a little with story ideas.

  • Gent

    Yes he did . Do you want more stuff that doesn’t make sense he is old now

  • Mr_Steven

    Haven’t watch it yet, I’m waiting for the youtubers thatI subscribe to upload their stuff to watch all of it. Looking forward to it, Broly vs Hulk was awesome.

  • Sakata Gintoki

    hopefully they keep that sweet juicy gt intro

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Pretty much.The only difference is that Toei isn’t making the story this time around.

  • Gent I told you Xenoverse 2 was competive.

  • That’s actually good because they won’t mess it up

  • Gent

    WTF Saiyans school

  • Mr_Steven

    Hopefully they won’t have them animate either, doubt it though.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Toei isn’t bad at making a story.some of the anime-only episodes in Super are pretty good.

  • Di

    you should check it, it reminded me of gaara vs lee but without the sand

  • If they make it in manga it probably wont get an anime in along time

  • Gent

    I told you I will beat your ass heehehe . Haribo Power

  • True

  • Mr_Steven

    You mean Dan Dan? I love that song more than Cha la la. It really made GT final scene more memorable.

  • Nameless

    Hi Dragon Ball fans!

  • You kept on spamming

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    It will be animated by Toei.Unless Toei decides to sell the rights of the DB anime which would be pretty stupid.But with a good enough pre-production the animation would be pretty decent with some moments where it becomes amazing like One Piece.Super’s problem is the short pre-production not Toei.

  • Nameless

    Yes, yes it is.

  • Gent

    I always was stronger than you . First time it was that kinda of glitch you winned hahahahaha .

  • I’m going host more endless battles because it’s fun

  • Sakata Gintoki

    the gt rap

  • You suck at the game I’ll rekt you next time

  • Sakata Gintoki

    *fags <3

  • Nameless

    Sailor Moon for you then

  • Sakata Gintoki

    manliest of shows

  • Gent

    You said that’s not possible so NO

  • Abusing the stamina break will screw you over.

  • Gent

    Hehe grow stronger then come and fight the Elites

  • Nameless

    Kishimoto is taking over

  • Gent

    Stamina break ??? What’s that

  • You kept using the same move to

  • Nameless

    Toriyama is immortal

  • Mr_Steven

    Selling the anime that would indeed be pretty stupid. Toei is capable, I’m pretty sure the problem is they are making their shows run non stop instead making it by season like other animes have been doing lately.

  • Nameless

    Dragon Ball Room is official

  • It’s that move I kept doing that which give you a chance to attack

  • Mr_Steven

    Oh hell naw! XD

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Ye.

  • Gent

    That’s not true I used combo so that game learned me. Square square square. Triangle triangle triangle . And some when you combine those two

  • Nameless

    Sup

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Hello.

  • Gent

    ….

  • Mr_Steven

    Don’t even joke about that. DX

  • The combos are endless if you know how to punish people

  • Nameless

    But its the truth lol

  • Read it again

  • Gent

    You said you can’t spam and then you say this what a liar

  • Bye

  • Gent

    So you Saiyan that you let me win somehow

  • Gent

    Bye

  • Mr_Steven

    No he is not, he hasn’t found the Dragon Balls yet. If he finds it he got to tell Oda, because I’m pretty sure he’ll die before he finish One Piece.

  • Gent

    Saiyng *

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Take care.

  • That move can get you beat if it misses

  • Nameless

    Have a good one

  • Mr_Steven

    Bring in Kubo as well. That’ll be a combination of consciences and asspulls.

  • Nameless

    SS4 and SSG avatars for XV3???

  • Nameless

    Immortality for all!

  • Nameless

    Oh boy

  • Nameless

    That bastard

  • Nameless

    Fighting words

  • Nameless

    Comeback

  • Gent

    That moment I started eating Haribo I did a streak of wins then I had to leave

  • Elliott Blair

    Get ready for the overly saturated product.

  • Super sand Legend Pink

    whyyy so late si

  • service is not available only offline play is available

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Now that I think about it, the Freiza race should just have two forms of which you can equip. The first being the final 4th/final form and than golden form, imo.

  • Scott Baker

    saiyans have 3 forms.
    goku ssj3
    vegeta super and super 2 ki blast stronger

    and future super saiyan where your ki recovers fast.

    draw back of gokus trans is you need to spend (with out equipment) 50 points in Ki just to get 5 ki bars..

  • King Starscream

    Bow before me humans!

  • mich

    i swear i keep doing that move when i dont even try to. like what on earth is buttons u press to do it right in the 1st place?

  • Gammy

    4.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Ok cool

  • Who are you?

  • King Starscream

    With me as the mighty leader of the decepticons the universe will belong to us!

  • mich

    a random person on here just like u and everyone else lol

  • I’m about to host an endless matche

  • How do you know what move I’m talking about?

  • mich

    youtube videos playing xenoverse 2 my self and seeing the attack done by my char.

  • Gent

    Ok I’ll beat your ass

  • Gent

    Sepse Drini eshte I yni

  • In ur dream bish

  • Haru Onodera

    Waiting for Xenoverse Style Naruto Game.

  • alienx26

    hell yeah! that would be awesome. Also one piece,hunter x hunter, and one punch man

  • Rhafty

    From experience from button mashing lol.

    forward +any attack key

  • Rhafty

    Until megatron appears and make you his woman again lol.

  • Rhafty

    So max lvl is 25 and if your careful you can get 5 bars of ki without equipment.. with that in mind expect a tone of ssj3 CC’s in the full game lol.

    kinda sucks majins and namekians forms rely on stamina.. don’t see many of them when i was questing only saw 1 male majin (ki type.. he was small and never went close range) and later in the day a female (ironically did the opposite of the male) but neither used pure form..

    i wanted to see a giant namek going toe to toe with the boss monkey xd.

  • Masso

    50 points? Of course not, I used 30 and that’s because lvl cap is 25 in the Beta, on the main game it will be 80 or more andfor each level you get a little of every stat, remember in XV1 a lvl 99 character with no stats had 4 bars of ki, and 25 stat points equals to 1 extra bar.

  • Haru Onodera

    Max Level in Beta is 25?

  • Noctis Uchiha

    Can’t blame them. The cow has so much milk.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    I’ll never understand why people use the term “milking”

    It basically says that a show(or anything really) is lasting long.I don’t what’s so bad about that.It’s the goal of any show comic or anything really.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Nah. Milking

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Just say that the show is bad.It makes more sense than saying that it’s being milked.

  • Noctis Uchiha

    That’s what I’m saying though. This cow has infinite milk and is pretty much the only cow that’s able to last so long. It’s crazy because it was meant to end after the Frieza saga. Nothing is meant to last forever, but since people just blindly throw their money towards this franchise, Shueisha knows that they can let this thing continue for eternity.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Nah cuz. MILKING.

  • Gent

    As long as we have grass we will have milk

  • Noctis Uchiha

    And as long as we have soil, we will have grass.

  • Gent

    So if we have grass that means that we have new things to milk

  • Gent

    But that means that every show is milked

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Milking as in generating more than what was ever supposed to be.

  • Rojai

    ….

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    I wonder who said that.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Nothing has a set amount of content that it’s supposed to make.If people like it it’ll make more content if people don’t it’ll stop.The term “Milking” makes no just say that the show is bad or not as good as it used to be.

  • Ghost Rider

    I don’t care though, not like I’m buying the episodes I watch. Not my money, they can milk away.

  • Noctis Uchiha

    Lmao. Ok, Mr. Illegal.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Super shouldn’t even exist, not saying I’m not glad it does but still.

    If that’s not milking then Idk what is.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Neither should Z by that logic.In fact neither should anything past the first chapter of DB since it’s lasting longer and thus by definition is being “milked”.

  • Ghost Rider

    Was the manga called Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, or was it all just Dragon Ball? Cause if it was all just Dragon Ball, and the anime split the manga into two different anime, then that’s not really milking since it’s one straight story.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Don’t count Z since that was fan demand.

    Anything past is.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    True.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    It was called Dragon Ball.But my point still stands.By his logic anything that lasts is “milked”

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Fans didn’t demand another DB series?Ok then.

  • It felt good whooping people online it’s going My Channel for sure

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Don’t take this out of context.

    I’m only talking Z.

    Don’t sit here and tell me anything created after the “finale” is not milking.

  • Dust

    Some of you guys weren’t suppose to be born you’re being milked.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Yes, agree with Senpai.

  • ;-;

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    So everything that takes place after Oolong wished for Bulmas panties is milking since that was where the series was supposed to end originally but it lasted longer because it was popular.

    kanzenshuu.Com/intended-end/dragonballs/

  • Gent

    ;-;

  • Dust

    Yes

  • Dust

    But Super was made from fan demand because everyone liked Battle of Gods and RoF. So it shouldn’t be considered milking by this logic.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    You’re still taking it out of context.

    Since Z is a continuation of Dragon Ball, they’re basically one in the same.

  • Dust

    >.>

  • Ghost Rider

    False. No one liked RoF

  • Dust

    <.<

  • PurexedSolitude;

    And yeah, I know Super is a continuation of Z but that’s not the point.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    And Super is a continuation of Z.

  • Dust

    That’s a lie. The movie did well.

  • Ghost Rider

    What is the point?

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    What’s the point then?Anything that isn’t the original manga is “milking” by that logic.

  • Ghost Rider

    Define “well”

  • That makes no sense

  • PurexedSolitude;

    You’re honestly gonna say it was created strictly for fans?

    Nah, it was made mostly for the revenue.

    If it ain’t broke.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    *say

  • Gent

    Just let those weebs my man

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Revenue comes from fans.

  • Gent

    Wow

  • Wrong nobody liked supers Rof people liked the movie

  • Dust

    8.4 million dollars from theaters alone kind of well.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    One of the top animated movies on the billboard. Think it was at Top 10

    THAT SAYS ALOT

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    I still haven’t watched the movie only the arc in Super and it was pretty bad.

  • Ghost Rider

    Animated in Japan or animated world wide?

  • Gent

    Anime?

  • Saiyan island is gone sexual

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Yeah, exactly.

    They know they can make boat loads of money from continuing even though it should have been long over.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    It outsold fast and furious in Japan but it don’t know if that’s impressive since anime in Japan is bigger than movies(non anime movies at least)

  • That means one piece is being milking

    Even. Cod games are being milked

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Great analysis cuz COD is being milked.

    Idk about OP.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Just like how DB was supposed to end when Oolong wished for Bulmas panties.Everything after that is milking tho.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    When the series ended in the 90s but suddenly comes back with a continuation over two decades later?

    Yeah.

  • One piece should’ve been finished because it’s too long not

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Chill.

    I have Selena.

  • Ghost Rider

    Actually $63.2 million.

  • Dust

    Everything is made for money. Entertainment cost money. Other than that you can dig a hole or kick rocks.

  • Ghost Rider

    The movie was better I guess.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Interpret that how you will but I’m only talking after Z.

  • Dust

    Even better

  • It’s be gone for 18 years and just and back.

    If you wanna know what true music milking naruto has manga and it hasn’t been decade yet plus is has fillers

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Nahhh. What did you think I meant? In America. DB won’t ever have the most popular anime movie in the world or even in Japan.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Didn’t “Milking” mean that something is lasting longer than it should?The show ended in the 90’s and truly got revived last year so by that logic it isn’t milking since it ended and took a 17 year long break.

  • goku fan

    yo, nice

  • If people don’t like Dragon ball getting expanded just don’t bother watching what comes out next easy

  • Ghost Rider

    So Top 10 animated movies when it was released in America? Well I mean that makes sense, it’s DB. What was it up against though?

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Why ignore everything that happened before Z?

  • Dust

    Just like Star Wars

  • Ghost Rider

    Personally I kinda feel like RoF was pretty weak. I was kidding about the everyone hating it part, but yeah, it’s not one of my favorites.

  • People will always like Star Wars.

    Another thing cod seems to get milked the most but cod fanboys always buy them

  • Dust

    It’s not milking you can’t deny it. The series was created for money and it will continue for money there is no milking. If people are willing to spend money on it then it’s not dead.

  • Ghost Rider

    Nah there are people that dislike the newest Star Wars movie. Not a lot of people, but there are some. Liger is one of them actually. Mainly cause of Rey.

  • Dust

    He thinks it’s feminism? Because she’s the lead?

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    The DB expansion still hypes me up.I hope that it’s handled well.

  • These are possiblites from this so called dragon ball room.
    Mini series about characters other than Goku
    A whole new franchise
    New merch
    Movies
    New mangas
    New stories for games
    New characters

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Correction, I’m wrong. ROF made it Top 16 on the highest grossing anime movie and this is worldwide ratings. It’s the billboard with Pokémon: The First Movie, One Piece Film Z, Spirited Away, Akira, etc.

  • Trust me it will since it’s not just toriyama and no it can be written by tons of people

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    The fighting was my only love about the movie

  • Ghost Rider

    Pretty much. He also hates how she like easily learned how to use the force in the movie too. Majority of the people who disliked the movie have that problem with it. Idk why, it’s just a movie. She’s obviously gifted in the mystical made-up Jedi ways.

  • Do you like the new Star Wars stuff?

    Are excited about this dragon ball room with so much possibilities?

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Would want the next movie not be canon.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Happening on an alternate timeline I’ll say.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Eh.You can just ignore it even if it’s canon.There is no rule that says that if it’s canon you must watch it.

  • Ghost Rider

    I’d prefer they made new movies. Movies that involved the other universes or timelines

  • Let’s just hope it’s seasonal so it can have consistent animations

  • Ghost Rider

    Everythings canon for me. Except Broly. Fucck Broly.

  • Ghost Rider

    Yeah I love the new Star Wars stuff

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    I think that there will be manga first since Shueisha doesn’t make moves from all i know.They just publish manga’s i think.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    No. probably don’t know what I’m getting at.

  • Ghost Rider

    Annd yeah the Dragon Ball Room could be a good idea. But if it’s just a second way for them to show us Goku’s adventures, then I wouldn’t be a fan

  • Dust

    Like a series about space wizards is suppose to have logic. Anakin was born from the force.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Let’s have one on the Human God of Universe 7 – Yamcha

  • But if it’s an anime more stuff can shown for example if fusion reborn was an anime janemba could’ve been so much better

  • I hate broly he’s so overrated

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    I just want then to retcon DB Minus and make a spin-off about either Frieza before Namek or King Cold’s origin.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    And I have Scarlett Johansson and Margot Robbie

  • I just want a whole new franchise with new characters no more Goku or gohan

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    I understand where you’re coming from especially since I believe Broly should’ve had a better back story to his movie(s)

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Clearly that won’t happen.

  • Dust

    Meh Freeza when he was born maybe but before Namek Freeza would just be him drinking wine and selling planets

  • Ghost Rider

    Lel Pokemon has like 8 movies in the top 25. But yeah that’s pretty good for RoF.

  • Let’s hope one of those people are fans of othe characters not just Goku

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    King Cold’s origin it is then.

  • Thankss

  • Ghost Rider

    That group scene with the Z fighters vs Frieza’s soldiers was awesome. I still think Vegeta should’ve had more time to shine though.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    you mean goku or vegeta right?

  • It’s possible

  • Everybody

  • Yeah 🙂

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    With Goku fans lurking around? Nah breh

  • Don’t jinx it please ;-;

  • Dust

    Gowasu should have his own movie

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    He should get his own spin-off about his Godtube channel.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Well to be honest, Toriyama-Senpai focused around everyone in Db/Dbz/ so we seen everyone’s limits as of now. It’s possible for them to get stronger etc in Super, but a new series won’t be possible likely. Gohan had two prime times also, so it’s likely he can get a third. the humans aren’t weak either they’re strong for themselves.

  • The start of this new project should kill off Goku

  • Dust

    No

  • Yes

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Doubt it.

  • ;-;

  • Dust

    And it’ll show us his daily vlogs and videos about tea

  • Ghost Rider

    Nah.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Gotta agree with him on that one, Goku is the reason why the anime is lasting so long. Other than Vegeta

  • TheSherlockHokage

    New PS4 game.

  • I thought you’d u people don’t want him

  • Dust

    You should die to start the new spin off

  • ;-;

  • Ghost Rider

    I don’t want him as the main character of a spinoff, but you don’t have to kill him off to do that.

  • Ghost Rider

    You mean like Xenoverse 2.

  • Well anything will do

  • Even that

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No. Like a whole new series in parallel to XV2.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    About the brand new adventure of Goku fighting people and the new villains like Raditz,Frieza,Cell,Buu and more.

    Too soon for that unless it’s Xeno 3.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Wee can hope. Also, the Earthlings transformation is stupid.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Don’t give up though, I’m pretty sure something great will happen for ya know this Universal Tournament that’ll happen soon. I just hope everyone is strong to compete honestly. I hate that the whole series now focuses on two characters. :/ It was great when everyone had a role in the anime

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Wonder what can Goku and Vegeta achieve after the end of Super. What can you do after Gods? Omnipotence? Cosmic entities? ‘-‘

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    The Buu race transformation is the worst one.

  • Dust

    That’s a terrible idea.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Explain.

  • Dust

    You mean the original Dragonball?

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    What is the game going to be about?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    For me, it is the Earthlings then the Buu.

  • That form is op it’s good the buu transformation is bad

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Boi u look like an explanation

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    They’ll possibly want to get stronger, I’m pretty sure they’ll get something new while training. Evolve into new stages of Super Saiyan,

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Yes, and Dragon Ball z. They had an important role in the anime

  • Dust

    You think people are gonna wanna buy both? You’re forcing them to choose.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    That’s their duty to find out, but let’s say you go to a parallel world and live a new story from a different perspective.

  • Agree

  • Ghost Rider

    They definitely won’t release two DBZ games around the same time. Especially since there’s only so much you could do with the storyline to differentiate them from each other.

  • Ghost Rider

    They’d loose so much money.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    They can sell alternatively. Also, don’t worry. People are prepared to buy 10 DB games at a time.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Why?

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Lol no they aren’t.

  • Ghost Rider

    No, no they aren’t.

  • Dust

    Nah after super saiyan came they were irrelevant except Piccolo and he died off too.

  • If we get a new weekly dragon ball manga it will better than super because the anime will adaptation of the manga

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I want my unique moves not moves the same for everyone.

  • I won’t waste money on it

  • TheSherlockHokage

    As you like.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Even if it was better than XV2?

  • Ghost Rider

    Why would you sell two DBZ games at the same time? You’re going to split the amount of people who buy the game in half, by forcing them to choose. Not everyone would want to buy both, especially if the other one is some random new title going up against a sequel.

  • The human transformation use a stick that’s unique but buy cacs get kid buus moveset which is lazy

  • Spooky BaraCon

    No.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    10 X 60 = 600

    you can almost buy 2 PS4’s with 600$

  • Dust

    No they’re going to compare and choose. Especially when there are like 5 other games they want.

  • Yes

  • That’s hard to top

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Then the solution would be by decreasing the price to 40$.

  • Ghost Rider

    Super doesn’t adapt the manga cause the manga started after Super. And adapting the manga doesn’t make it better

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    No. if the manga wasn’t rushing so quick, it would be better than the anime, period.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    When 10 DB games, sell at the same time, the price will drop.

  • It would be more consistent

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I doubt.

  • Ghost Rider

    That’s a terrible solution.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    And they’ll lose money.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Unless it’s price was affordable.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Why?

  • Ghost Rider

    Why would they? How would they make money off of that?

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    I would, if there was another game instead of AssZeno 2 then I would gladly buy whatever other DB game is being released at the same time, if it’s good that is.

  • Xenoverse 2 is great

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    You’d buy 10 DB games as the same time?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    They are getting money either way. When it will have a lower price, more people will buy it.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    I would if it’s not AssZeno

  • If it was weekly manga it most likely be better

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

  • Dust

    They better be prepared to sell it for dirt cheap. Like 20 dollars.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    When there are 10 of the damn things people will probably ignore them.

  • Dude the game isn’t bad it’s really good

  • Ghost Rider

    Cause you’re still losing money. Decreasing the price doesn’t guarantee that people would want to pick up two DBZ games at the same time.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It’s better than others, but I can see it could have been way more better.

  • Wouldn’t make the games bad if they have to spilt the money?

  • SilentSaiyan

    Don’t see how earthlings is stupid, Buu is bad only because its boring and mostly a re-skin. Earthlings had no transformations to begin with, and you want to go by DBO they got ssj. Don’t know what you were expecting.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No. First because it’s DB. Second, they can buy one every 2 months for example. At the end, they will buy all if they were great.

  • It’s better storm 4

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Yea, that’s a cool opinion of yours..

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    They’d lose money unless they spend less on the game which would make it worst so yea they would.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Unless they were well made and the demand was high like Xenoverse. That would make he demand higher.

  • SilentSaiyan

    It depends…

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Making 10 games at the same time is a big task that one company can’t handle.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    We are talking about DB. You can’t compare two different games of two different anime.

  • @nouraddineshouman:disqus You sound like the type of guy that would buy anything

  • Ghost Rider

    Ok just because you say “because it’s DB” isn’t a valid point. Not everyone is willing to spend $60 per game based off of brand loyalty alone. If they make two games and release it at the same time, they’re pretty much guaranteeing that people will choose between them.

  • Dust

    That’s the same as waiting for a price drop. It would cost more to make the games than they would get back after all that. And they won’t have the man power to develop any other games if they have 10 Dragonball projects at once.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    First, I was exaggerating. Second, I didn’t say the same company. Many companies work.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Don’t “…” me. I’ll touch you when you’re sleeping :}

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Pls do.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It depends. Someone like me would buy both if they were good to me.

  • Xenoverse 2 has better gameplay you get kicked out of a match as much and it has endless

  • Ghost Rider

    If one game is better than the other they’d choose the better game first. Regardless of how great both games are, you’re gonna have more people choosing to buy only one, than people who buy both. Which’ll get them less money than if they just released one game at normal price.

  • Ghost Rider

    Well not everyone is a fanboy…

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Ok. You say that now, but when I go to far. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

  • Ghost Rider

    They’re both fighting games so yeah you can

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Again, you can’t compare two different games. You are comparing the servers not the games here. Also, Storm 4 has endless.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    But it’s ass and it’s dry.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Atleast 60% are.

  • Ghost Rider

    Did he tell you that he’s gonna buy the PS Pro and PS VR?

  • Not spectator which works really well with friends

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    How did you come to this conclusion?

  • Ghost Rider

    I can make up statistics too…

  • He tells me that a lot so yeah

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You can give earthlings a kioken or something.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Beta is meant for testing lmao, game comes out in like 2 weeks. They only need to really fix the servers, glitches. We are meant to find the problems so that Bandai can fix them before game is launched.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Everyone can go kaioken don’t see your point.

  • Ghost Rider

    Can’t everyone go Kaioken…

  • It was fun fighting you 🙂

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I am talking about all humans. There is nothing that differentiates me from others.

  • Ghost Rider

    The Boruto Manga?

  • SilentSaiyan

    Yeah man, I honestly think beams a quite op, I put most of my stats into KI just to get ssj3.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    In the trash

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I mean give them an attack that preserves their moves and not make all earthlings have the same moves.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Fanfiction?

  • Dust

    We caught most the problems from the closed beta. The server is the real concern now.

  • Ghost Rider

    What? There are tons of things that differentiates you from other people.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Melee and Stamina and Ki are always my main priority.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Then you are comparing the servers not the game itself.

  • I’m gonna invite on endless with a couple of my friends

  • Ghost Rider

    Same shitt

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What conclusion?

  • Dust

    It’s power pole based attacks because they’re using the power pole. How can they be any different?

  • SilentSaiyan

    True. No game is perfect and I agree Bandai could’ve added some more stuff in but I find the game alright.

  • If you miss a stamina break you’ll get punished really bad

  • SilentSaiyan

    Okay. I got a level 1 character though because I wanted to test out other races.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    If you give them kioken for example, each earthling will have his own moves.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    They are all bae.

    F*cking hell.

  • Spooky BaraCon

    Ask your mom

  • TheSherlockHokage

    -_-

  • Ghost Rider

    They should’ve made it so only humans can equip weapons to their costumes, then make their transformation use whatever weapon they had on their backs. But Powerpole is cool too

  • It’s on limitation you don’t got to worry

  • Dust

    Everyone can use Kaioken Sherlock. If you want Kaioken instead of the power pole just equip it instead.

  • Ghost Rider

    Except anyone can use Kaioken, so that doesn’t work.

  • SilentSaiyan

    All races have kaioken, all races can use kaioken, it was never stated the saiyans(Goku mainly) was the only one who could. King Kai just never taught it to the other z fighters.

  • The invesability glitch was patched didn’t experience it

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    I won’t get punished.

  • Ghost Rider

    You said “Me” as in you. So yeah.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I was giving an example. They could create a new transformation.

  • SilentSaiyan

    I experienced a night glitch when it was suppose to be day time after using an ultimate.

  • If you have stamina you won’t

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No. I was just giving an example. They could create a new transformation.

  • Ghost Rider

    Humans don’t transform though.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No. I was just giving an example. They could create a new transformation..

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Nah, I just won’t and can’t be punished. Doesn’t work on me like that.

  • Dust

    It’s already started it’s called “Boruto”

  • Even if the minor glitches don’t get patched day one they’ll fix it with a day 1 patch

  • TheSherlockHokage

    They could give them a buff like Moten Roshi or something like that. I don’t know.

  • SilentSaiyan

    What new transformation, Master Roshi’s buff form? Like what? The only other two trans I can think of are SSJ from DBO for earthlings but that was because they had small saiyan dna. And the filler episode of dbz where Tien use some white like kaioken trans.

  • Dust

    Like what? There is nothing for them to turn into

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    You spelled an average anime wrong.

  • You must be really good

  • SilentSaiyan

    How would it work/look for females though. We can’t just add it on.

  • Ghost Rider

    That wouldn’t exactly translate well for female characters. At all.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Is there any new Super episode today?

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    I wasn’t joking, lol.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Oh my god. I was joking =_=

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Yes.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    True. They could think of something. They are some buffed females in the world though.

  • Dust

    Tien just powered up and was showing his aura. And the females would need a form of their own if the buff thing was used. The power pole was a good choice and it works gameplay wise. Maybe give the option to use another weapon in XV3 and they’re good.

  • Ghost Rider

    Here let me google that for you

    lmgtfy.Com/?q=When+is+the+next+dragon+ball+super+episode

  • TheSherlockHokage

    They could thing of something. I am just giving ideas.

  • Dust

    My bad Boruto would be Naruto GT

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Like 100% power or something like that.

  • Ghost Rider

    And they did think of something. Powerpole and Nimbus combo.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    That would work.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Ikr, idk why people complain about the power pole, the most unoriginal trans for any of the races is honestly ssj in my opinion. If females got the buff they would have just have bigger muscles don’t see what else can be added.

  • Ghost Rider

    lmgtfy.Com/

    Linger showed it to me

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    mgtfy.Com/?q=let+me+google+that+for+you

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thanks.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thank you.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Arigato.

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    Does this not work?

  • SilentSaiyan

    This linger and liger thing confuses me sometimes.

  • Dust

    Sherlock remember that old guy from the Transformers movie? Well guess what his grandpa transformed into NOTHING!! They have enough options if they don’t want the power pole they can use Unleashed Potential or Kaioken. Should be lucky they got an exclusive skill.

  • Ghost Rider

    I thought the powerpole was stupid till I saw it in action and it’s actually pretty cool. It’s unique. They should’ve added weapon customization for humans though. Like let you use a sword or whatever weapon you have on your costume.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It didn’t work.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Tell me this then, without the cell games and seeing everyone Gohan loves get hurt, the death of android 16, they had a huge role in his super saiyan 2 transformation, they all defended themselves against Buu, even though they all died, it led to goku coming back to earth and the fact that without them and the earthlings, goku couldn’t have never gotten the Super Spirit Bomb ready to kill Kid Buu, In super the new saiyans helped Goku to become a God, and in the frieza arc they all did do well against frieza’s soldiers. So yeah they became irrelevant.

  • Ghost Rider

    You’re missing an I at the front

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Don’t disrespect legends like that.

  • Dust

    Ugh buff women

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    lmgtfy.Com/?q=let+me+google+that+for+you

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Eitherway, it is a good transformation, but I say it could have been better.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    You can say that for Yamcha though tbh.

  • Ghost Rider

    Oh god what have I done.

  • SilentSaiyan

    In what way.

  • Dust

    That would be a good idea to look into.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Like DBO?

  • Dust

    Yeah maybe give them a sword they can use.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It worked.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    lmgtfy.Com/?q=Is+Saiyan+island+for+gays%3F

  • Anthony_weaver86

    That will be $100.00

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Thank you. I will now use this forever.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    In being unique for every earthling and preserving his moves instead of making all earthlings have the same moves.

  • Dust

    So they are relevant. And didn’t stop being relevant. Your paragraph just destroyed your statement. Congratulations you played yourself.

  • SilentSaiyan

    I dont understand.

  • Dust

    So Sasuke is gay?

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Yesh

  • Dust

    I don’t either. The power pole is unique and sets them apart. I really don’t know.

  • Dust

    Yes

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It says let me google that for you.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    you simply just said they were irrelevent. I proved myself correct :-). They may not have big roles in Super but without them being in Dbz there wouldn’t be a Dbz. Especially when Krillin Dies.

  • Madara uchiha

    Black and zamasu will fuse

  • Oscar Frieza (Linger)

    *Gasp*

  • SilentSaiyan

    I have no idea what Sherlock is talking about.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Then get anal drilled by Whis and Beerus

  • SilentSaiyan

    Black and zamasu reveal they were really tien and yamcha the entire time.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    They are considered weak by many yes, but that’s because they are humans. for them to even be humans they’re strong enough for now hopefully, I hope they get stronger. But with all these new alien races being more powerful, Toriyama will only focus on the two powerful characters, Goku and Vegeta. That’s why most people consider the other z- fighters irrelevent or even wasted characters but their potential is already good enough

  • TheSherlockHokage

    When you use nimbus, all earthlings had the same moves that way just like the Buu transformation. I am talking about a transformation that keeps the original moves before transforming.

  • SilentSaiyan

    But you are using the nimbus and power pole, of course your moves will change. Keeping your original moves make no sense.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    woah let’s have Krillin fuse with Hit then

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It will never end.

  • Dust

    But you said the series only focuses on two characters and then said that the others were still relevant. You’re fighting yourself.

  • Dust

    We the best music.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Atleast give them new moves depending on your original moves and fighting style. Not just give all earthlings the same moves. I don’t know if you understood my point of view.

  • I would like to upload some Xenoverse 2 gameplay but it’s hard because sharefactory doesn’t have good soundtracks

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I went today to buy PS VR, but I hesitated because of its 680$ price.

  • Madara uchiha

    I havent seen you here on a long time.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You can always add your own soundtracks at the end.

  • I need it to play while the gameplay is being shown

  • Madara uchiha

    What happened to that goldliger guy.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Sorry but I dont understand, Im trying to picture it but you’re gonna have to help me on that.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Perhaps give an example?

  • Dust

    Give the money to your Deddy. He deposits it in his bank account. You order it offline. It gets to you in a few days.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Yes. When you finish editing in the sharefactory, transfer it to your ipad and add the soundtrack.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Why is the servers so destroyed for XV2 😐

  • Dust

    Probably making theories.

  • That takes too much gb

  • SilentSaiyan

    Lmao I need someone to invite me because I cant play.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What do you mean by ordering it offline? Also, we don’t have a bank account .

  • Both Xenoverse 2 and cod are haveing the beta at the same time

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    ahh I see, that’s why I can’t join the game it says “offline play is available” but kicks me out the entire thing.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    For example, if you attack right forward, your attacks with the rod are forward. If you attack from sides, your rod attacks become from sides.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    It won’t let me play at all :[, same happened with XV1 beta

  • Madara uchiha

    Oh

  • Rojai

    ….

  • You have one

  • Dust

    I meant online. And why does no one in your family have a bank account? Do you guys just leave cash laying around the house?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Not really.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Nope not understanding, but I guess nice idea ? Lol.

  • Rojai

    What a day

  • SilentSaiyan

    I could atleast play on XV1 beta.

  • Playing Star Trek online that’s his life

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    I think it’s because I’m a bleach fan and they’re like ” no you can’t make a shinigami in Dbx2″

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What a night.

  • Rojai

    Kill yourself

  • Yes

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    What is Super saiyan Green? Why do a lot of people want that color, it looks disgusting.

  • Rojai

    Broly

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Wait Broly hair was green?

  • If I get in whi wants me to invite them on endless?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Hhhhhh. I can’t explain more than that. Anyway, the nimbus is good for an extent.

  • Madara uchiha

    It’s true

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No. We store them. My father has his own company.

  • Rojai

    That’s who will most likely get the green form

  • Nameless

    Hola putas

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    I’ve always been here….
    In everybody’s hearts

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It’s night here-_-

  • Rojai

    No

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Chupa mi pinga

  • Drink bleach 😉

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    wasn’t his hair like a yellowish green though? that’s why his looks so epic then.

  • Rojai

    That’s your own fault

  • Nameless

    Lmao

  • Dust

    So strange.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Hey what’s up guys it’s Scarce here

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Moi.

  • Rojai

    I invented Broly

  • Rojai

    Small loan of a million dollars

  • Dust

    We don’t like your kind here.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What about super saiyan rainbow? It is the ultimate SS.

  • Did it finish downloading

  • Rojai

    Racist….

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Yea, but it’s still green.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    You have created a good Saiyan

  • Dust

    Super Saiyan Green = Legendary Super Saiyan

  • King Starscream

    Obey the new ruler of the universe!

  • Rojai

    Thanks

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Hello. I can’t buy PS VR:(

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Wouldn’t buy that shiz

  • Nameless

    My Space > Facebook > Twitter > Instagram

  • That’s so lame

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Yes. Today morning. From about 13 hours.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    But I’m talking about plain green though, like for Broly because it had a mixture of coloring to the green it looked epic. maybe because the animation changed for dbz and dbs.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Yes.

  • Dust

    Alex is a stupid nig…

  • Did you make a cac?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Why? It’s not sh!t.

  • Nameless

    Oh really, you need a hug puta?

  • King Starscream

    Send your praise and be a part of the conversation with #starscream at face book and twitter

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Nah. It wasn’t plain. Just a mixed.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    How come?

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    You’re welcome, let’s try to create Legendary Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4 ultra god mode 3 Broly pls

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Make a female Saiyan

  • Dust

    Don’t call me no puta you bumbaclot

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I couldn’t. It always kicked me out.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Why?

  • Rojai

    That’ll take months

  • Nameless

    Hmm

  • SilentSaiyan

    I made a female earthling going through tutorial only thing lost if u remake is level and attribute points so I kept all my stuff.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Twitter > Instagram

  • King Starscream

    And then say you are an android we robots are superior

  • It’s not cheek worthy 😉

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    That could explain why it was great, like for example people would like a plain green super saiyan color, light green, dark green etc. it doesn’t feel right to me,

  • Dust

    Most people have bank accounts. It makes thing easier. And without one there’s lots of things you can’t do.

  • King Starscream

    Obey the decepticons!

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Cause females are cool and the best in Xenoverse

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    what why? 🙁 we can do it

  • Nameless

    ……..I am so dead lol

  • King Starscream

    Starscream > megatron

  • Rojai

    Fine

  • Dark

    You’re gonna get the Broly enthusiasts wet with this one.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Oh sh#t! Do I need to call the ambulance?!??

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Are you sexual?

  • Rojai

    The dead can’t type

  • Rojai

    No chin

  • It’s true they have better everything

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Honestly, we don’t need them.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    YES !! we could also make his rival, super saiyan god super saiyan 3 white hair god mode 29 Goku

  • Nameless

    Optimus Prime

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Lol, watch a bunch of fanfic pictures pop up

  • Gent

    Well it’s was like in top 10 anime movies so

  • Dust

    That one guys grandpa who transformed into nothing.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Broly has two transformations first=SSJ and his last =lssj where he gets all buff and his hair turns green. First film his hair was green then next two it was yellow in LSSJ.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Optimus Prime > Grimlock

  • TheSherlockHokage

    How come? 90% of the videos I saw say it’s great and worth it.

  • Nameless

    Figure of speach

  • Dust

    We don’t speak of booger Broly

  • Rojai

    You’re on your own

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Looking like Xai Min

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    So he’s like trunks who’s hair was purple then out of nowhere he gets blue hair when super saiyan blue was invented o:

  • Nameless

    ………no

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What does they have?

  • It just sucks

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Oh, ok. U good then?

  • Dust

    Okay

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    He’s epic but has a crap back story

  • Nameless

    I’m fine fine fine as can be

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Maybe when I start working, I will need one.

  • Dust

    I only like that movie because Goten is the main

  • Rojai

    Nononono, don’t worry I’ll help you

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Aye bruh. That has nothing to do with my comments ‘-‘

  • Better combos, more hair styles, and more clothes than males

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Good good, very good

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You didn’t even try it. You always call games that they suck without even trying them.

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    When will we get to see the movie Attack on Dragon Ball Z ? I’m hyped to watch Goku and Eren fight off the Colossal titan and Great ape Baby

  • Nameless

    .__.

  • Nameless

    I’m a Saiyan

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I nee something practical not clothes and hair styles.

  • Dust

    Your pic is a girl but your profile name is Darnell this is confusing. You must be a girl because our profile pics are real pic of us.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Sorry. That is how I interpreted it.

  • Nameless

    That won’t be any good

  • Kamuikenshi

    That feeling when you realize that the only new things about Goku Black in XV2 are basically one super move and one ultimate move…

  • I don’t see why it matters I’m an IPhone 7 boi

  • Dust

    God they’ll nerf Goku so bad.

  • King Starscream

    Never I am the supreme transformer!

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    true :l they’ll reduce his flying and ki powers

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Well he is “Goku” Black
    I wasn’t to surprised when his moveset was literally a carbon copy of Gokus. Glad I ain’t buying him as dlc. Waste of mula.

  • Nameless

    You are funny

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Does that mean I am two persons?

  • If you want him free win a free copy of Xenoverse 2

  • Dust

    It’s faithful to the show. That’s what Black is just Goku but evil and smarter and faster and stronger and built to last longer.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    So you’re cell?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You don’t need to be just an iphone boy. You are a PS4 boy too.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Nah. I wouldn’t even want Xenoverse 2 free.

  • Dust

    Otherwise he would end the titan war in seconds

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    they just overdid Goku with a new outfit

  • Nameless

    Hand behind back move………not in

  • Kamuikenshi

    Dang.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Last part sounded waaaay to sexual

  • ;-;

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    That is true, but what about the dragon balls? would they be in the movie

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You would take XV2 free and sell it for 70$.

  • Dust

    Yes aka Giant Roach aka Giant Super Bug

  • Nameless

    He is getting it in

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Or trade it in for something better

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    Who’s hyped for Dragon Ball Evolution 2 ? This is when Goku meets Krillin at a job interview and goes to planet yardrat to fight off his villian brother Recoome

  • Dust

    They’re what causes the crossover. Someone makes a wish to send Goku away and he ends up there.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No. When trading it, you’ll lose money. You sell it., then buy the thing you want with the least price.

  • Nameless

    I will pass

  • I can’t get in the beta ;-;

  • Dust

    That’s how the commercial goes though =(

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Where is his hand sword?

  • Nameless

    You played to much, you’ve been banned.

  • ;(

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Don’t tell me what to do with my choices ._.
    I don’t care about losing money. I care about getting a better game that’ll satisfy me.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I can’t get to the beat.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    That’s only SSR. Which hasn’t been confirmed yet

  • Dust

    That is Rose Black this is just Black

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I am just advising you. Instead of buying one game, you can buy 2.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Normal Zamasu has it though.

  • Nameless

    I smell a dlc

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I didn’t even play it for a second.

  • Kamuikenshi

    Well played by Bandai,now they can sell one character twice.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    But I’m not looking to buy two. Therefore, there’s no need.

  • Kamuikenshi

    Most can’t it seems.

  • Nameless

    True

  • ;_;

  • Dust

    But this is Black not normal Zamasu

  • Your lying.

  • Nameless

    Right

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Sad, I know. Neither PS VR nor the beta.

  • I’ve played a lot I can wait but I need give some people big Ls

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Assheads still won’t get my money, but sheeps will fall into their trapped tho.

  • Dust

    And we’ll buy it too just like that storm 4 dlc that i’m not buying

  • Nameless

    They are the same person though……….

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Which is normal Zamasu.

  • Dust

    I got money to blow boy

  • Dust

    No Black is better and smarter and faster and…

  • King Starscream

    We decepticons have control over the server now bow down

  • Nameless

    ……….

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You will. Trust me. You will.

  • Dust

    No this is Black not normal Zamasu they are now different. You will wait and like it.

  • It was fun fighting Dust, quest, Seventh, and silent Saiyan

  • Dust

    Yep

  • Nameless

    Just one from a different time period

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    I know :[

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What about me?

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    No. I neve buy 2 games at once. Therefore, that’ll never happen.

  • I never fought you yet

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You’ll buy the deluxe edition of the game.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I am not convinced.

  • King Starscream

    And vegeta is his father!

  • Nameless

    For those who have it, how is PS VR?

  • Dust

    I don’t care

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I know:(

  • ;-;

  • King Starscream

    Why will no one bow before the mighty star scream!

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I can’t wait to fight you in VR. My hype is real.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Because he doesn’t exist.

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Boy you thought….
    That will never happen in my life. I will never and have never bought a deluxe edition for a game.

  • King Starscream

    How dare you, such insolence!

  • Nameless

    I just unlocked Zamasu in XV2 beta

  • Because nobody cares

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Really? I can’t even enter it.

  • You felt fir it lmao

  • Nameless

    Dimps said I am special so here is your reward young Jedi

  • How ?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    fir it?

  • King Starscream

    CARE!

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You can play any game you want using PS VR.

  • I honestly don’t even know what that is

  • Nameless

    Keep trying

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thank you.

  • Nameless

    Lmao

  • King Starscream

    Have you never seen the transformers?
    That is a crime !
    I’ve been around since 1984

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I am.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Will you buy XV2?

  • Nameless

    Older guy or gal I see

  • King Starscream

    25

  • Gent

    Why you lying

  • TheSherlockHokage

    @SmashGamer1:disqus I am in!

  • Nameless

    Console of choice?

  • Nameless

    Current

  • King Starscream

    PlayStation and Nintendo

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    weird, I unlocked Zeno in XV2

  • Guess not, aw well

  • King Starscream

    PS4, 3ds

  • Nope

  • King Starscream

    Please watch it forty
    At least the first 3 episodes and movie

  • Nameless

    I remember you from JG

  • Nameless

    PS4
    Vita

  • I’m not

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    Because it’s not worth it and I’m not impressed. Therefore, I won’t buy it at all.

  • Wait a minute, forty, is this who I think it is?

  • mich

    button mashing tells alot huh? anyway thank you!
    now if i could just freaking get on the game -.-

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Does it work if I invite you?

  • Nameless

    I just so too

  • King Starscream

    Of course it is, I’m in my transformers nostalgia phase

  • Do ya?
    I wasn’t on there much

  • Gent

    Still….

  • You to do something before you can

  • Masashi Hideaki

    hhh

  • I see, say you mind doin’ me a quick favor, if you can?

  • ɥɥɥ

  • HurhurhurHuehuehue

  • Nameless

    More so here

  • King Starscream

    If I can sure

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What is that?

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    remember when the destructo disc was said to be the most “powerful attack” ?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    You have to try it to know the feeling.

  • Play the first story mode quest

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What will you buy?

  • You mind taking a few of these Pokemon of mine and taking them to the Move Tutors in OR/AS for a few specific moves?
    Unfortunately I can’t get them these moves in X/Y

  • Masashi Hideaki

    Never stated.

  • King Starscream

    Just list what you need and I’ll see what I can do

  • Pokemon Moon, and maybe God Eater 2.
    I’m not interested in too much at this point

  • Kazui Kurosaki

    o :[

  • Masashi Hideaki

    I’ve read through the entire manga, i don’t recall any statement of such. hhh

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What about Crash Bandicoot Remastered?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Ok. I’ll try to be quick.

  • I hate you PlayStation why would make the cod beta the same as Xenoverse 2

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It seems I am getting kicked out:(

  • Masashi Hideaki

    Whatever, atleast the full version won’t have the same problem. hhh.

  • ;_;

  • Yeah

  • Just on these 3 Pokemon
    Tentacruel – Knock Off
    Florges – Heal Bell, and Synthesis
    and Uxie – Stealth Rocks

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I got kicked out. Damn. I didn’t even have the chance to try it.

  • They’ll fix at night maybe

  • Ryumancer

    Then why the hell are you here?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I am in again. When I press the start button, it works. When I load my character, it kicks me out.

  • Ryumancer

    Social Media in General < Crap

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    No. What didn’t you get from my reply at all? I don’t care for it.

  • Ryumancer

    Rainbow Dash > Starscream LMFAO

    Because of that Death Battle.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I agree with you if you tried it, but you didn’t.

  • That’s what happens to me

  • Ryumancer

    And Keemstar needs to shut up and/or die. 😉

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I’ll keep trying. I’ll never give up. That’s my Sherlokian way.

  • Ryumancer

    No, make it a Super Saiyan Seizure. All the colors switching in a high random frequency. The fight is over before it ever begins. LOL

  • -_-

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Hhhhhh. Yup.

  • Ryumancer

    And since children are more susceptible to those kinds of seizures, that might work on Omni-King Zeno. XD

  • TheSherlockHokage

    To you. I will always be a Sherlokian.

  • Masashi Hideaki

    Sounds hilarious. XD

  • ®Darnell Junior™ | 全能の神

    You said I didn’t?

  • Masashi Hideaki

    LMFAO

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thanks. By the way, what was your name before?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Did you?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Yup.

  • I’m just going get a friend to invite me

  • SilentSaiyan

    Lmao dont look at me

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Me?

  • SilentSaiyan

    Trying out majin now, and you have to beat enough story in order to invite really.

  • Masashi Hideaki

    The same as now.

  • ;-;

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I couldn’t even play at all.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Oh.

  • Now you can 🙂

  • SilentSaiyan

    xD Im still trying to connect with my majin

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thanks.

  • Np

  • I’m sorry

  • SilentSaiyan

    What for? Its not your fault. Blame the servers lol

  • Ryumancer

    Probably more of a sympathetic “I’m sorry” rather than one that claims responsibility.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Oh ok.

  • What do you think of this game?

  • Ik

  • Ryumancer

    I’m pretty sure he said he’s not buying it.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I said I’ll definitely buy it.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Great game.

  • You can have bad internet and it works good

  • SilentSaiyan

    Can’t wait till you can play offline without having to connect to the server.

  • Ryumancer

    Sorry, I’m a stupid idiot. I confused you with Darnell. I apologize. That was my bad. 🙁

  • SilentSaiyan

    Invite me too I haven’t played first story mode yet lol, I will notify if I get in.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    No problem.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Ok. Sure.

  • almost time for dbz

  • Trunks

    I wonder how Black is gonna get defeated, he’s bodying 2 SSBS and 1 SS2 without any effort

  • Me too plus training mode is in this time

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What’s your PSN name?

  • So beta still down for anyone else? ):

  • Gammy

    Zeno

  • I’m in

  • Super sand Legend Pink

    someone call peta
    dbs is showing animal abuse

  • I feel like someone did when peta tried to sue pokemon

  • Super sand Legend Pink

    and that perview is just hype

  • Dust

    Bandai said on twitter they know about the problems they said just play offline until they fix it. So I guess disconnect your ps4 from the internet and then once you’re in reconnect it and just play offline.

  • Dust

    And they said you can just get someone to invite you.

  • Rojai

    No

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thanks.

  • Lmao I love XV for this “Vegeta…Will you do ol papa cell a favor and help him with his daily warm up?” XD

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Did you transfer your data?

  • PockieNinjaRock

    hiiii

  • I’m not able to do that cause it tells me I need to be connected to the internet. >.>

  • They aint’ gonna fix it.
    The servers will continue to be bad.

  • PockieNinjaRock

    It is not the servers its psn >,>
    Xenoverse is fine

  • Is it Tuesday?

  • Cause they tried to host two betas at once

  • PurexedSolitude;

    He’s really sour towards XV2 because he feels it’s a carbon copy of the first.

  • PockieNinjaRock

    I have no problems

  • That solves nothing.

  • It went to hell for a lot of people because they tried to host two betas at the same time, the other being a COD beta.

  • PockieNinjaRock

    It does i can play o_o

  • No. Saying “it works for me” doesn’t help anying.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Honestly, I hated XV1. On the contrary, I love XV2.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    You’d think their network would be strong enough to host both.

    I guess only COD is working at the moment.

  • PockieNinjaRock

    Ah.. Well
    It is what it is bro ;§

  • TheSherlockHokage

    @PurexedSolitude;:disqus Will you buy Resident Evil 7?

  • And I have a big feeling it was mostly the cod beta, that made the psn issue cause a lot more play that than xenoverse im pretty sure.

  • I might just for 2 reasons, VR experience with a RE game and they are going back to horror from what I read

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Did you buy the PS VR?

  • Not yet but I plan to

  • Medulla Oblongata This D ✓

    Yeah I did. I appreciate it for the help but just when I deleted my save data to transfer my xv1 file the server want’s too act like an imbecile

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Same. I couldn’t even play once. Smash invited me. That’s the only way I played.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    They do, I’m guessing at least 3 times the number of players that were on the XV beta.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    XV1 wasn’t bad.

    It laid the groundwork.

  • PurexedSolitude;

    Probably not.

  • Cods beta also doesn’t work

  • It’s funny he likes storm 4 and that game isn’t even the best storm game, but Xenoverse 2 is better than and that’s a fact

  • @nouraddineshouman:disqus You have to git gud with combos I know that if you learn how to combo you’ll become one of greatest players on there

  • wats the best race in the beta

  • All of them except the bu race

  • wow bu race was kinda op on the first one

  • anyone discovered infinite combo?

  • I can keep my combo going if that’s what you mean

  • yeah.. what race are you?

  • Trunks

    Actually, I get in too. A lot of other people.

  • I played as the Saiyan on the closed beta, but on the open beta I made the Frieza raze

  • Trunks

    Nah, the servers are good. It’s just that PSN is down.

  • I will most likely make thus cac when the game comes out.

  • Dust

    If there’s a prize for rotten judgment
    I guess I’ve already
    Won that

  • Rodrigo Monterier

    “It’s really great that I don’t have to do anything now.”

    Yeah, I really noticed. It’s pretty obvious if you see that lazy job called Dragon Ball Super

  • Dust

    Shut your filthy mouth

  • Zamasu

    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You know what? *Claps hands together* I’m going to make ramen and watch some anime.

  • It’s sad the cod beta is working ;-;

  • TheSherlockHokage

    What are the games you are planning on buying?

  • TheSherlockHokage

    True.

  • All I see you do is complain

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I wanted to buy it today. Apparently, it is sold here for 680$ instead of 400$.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    Thanks. Honestly, it’s my first time to play the game.

  • TheSherlockHokage

    It depends. You can enter every while.

  • Just don’t rely on Super and ultimates

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I don’t, but I use them often.

  • It makes no sense it was fixed last night how can it get worst?

  • I know also try other characters

  • TheSherlockHokage

    I don’t have other characters.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    The perfect combination

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Here’s a question for you guys, do you think the z warriors mainly the saiyans and any fighter that keeps themselves in shape are planetary durability or higher?

  • Dust

    It works fine for me

  • Dust

    Who knows? Even if they are they still die.

  • Susanoo

    new post

  • Di

    Poor Goten is now less important than the Pilaf gang, he finally appeared and all he did was standing there while the others were talking

  • Sakata Gintoki

    he should stay in the kitchen where he belongs

  • Madara uchiha

    Nope the more you hurt black goku he gets stronger, plus zamasu is Immortal so it’ll be a pretty powerful fusion.

  • Di

    if only he could cook

  • Sakata Gintoki

    new post btw

  • Di

    I saw it but I got nothing to say about it

  • Anthony_weaver86

    True but some people are saying they can handle planetary explosion

  • Rodrigo Monterier

    More like “Milking Departament”, just to make more and more money to save their *sses out of the anime industry crysis, just like they’re doing with this boring anime and with this flawful game.

    Soon they will animate Dragon Ball AF and other horrive freaks, make thousand of transformations, what if, bring heroes to the east, and a lot of eye-bleeding things. Akira should feel shame, must because he didnt done Dragon Ball all by himself. I miss Matsuyama and I really wanted to know what happened to him.

  • Monkey D. Dragon

    It’s awesome and I got dizzy playing drive club demo

  • gogeta207

    pls dont talk like u known everything fan boy keep ur word and wait
    and this game not awful its great and this game u talk about it theres too many fans like it

  • Brofist

    They are already making thousands of transformations. Well… what DB Super fans THINK are legit transformations. To me, its hair dye.

  • gogeta207

    hmmm whats wrong with guys? lol what if they making thousands of trans whatever lol still number 1 to us

  • gogeta207

    its ok he just a kid doesnt know anything just complaining i bet he maybe boruto fanboy maybe or …. idk

  • gogeta207

    i dont know why he come this far away just for complaining if he dont like it dont bother ur self to come

  • Ryumancer

    Actually, Anthony, I have the perfect thing to try to answer your question with:

    youtube.Com/watch?v=arx4d26JsMc

    I for one believe, the main characters are far above planetary. The video would give great arguments why. 😀

  • Ryumancer

    “Waaaaaah…waaaaaah! I don’t have any life, so I have to make myself feel better by insulting something most other people like because I was just recently weaned off my mother’s teat! WAAAAAAAAAH!”

    That’s what you keep sounding like. 😉

  • Ryumancer

    Just call him out on being a baby. Some of the time, he does shut up. XD

  • SOLOmio

    Now people will stop blaming AT for everything in series!!

  • Rodrigo Monterier

    Non-standards fan boys always geting mad on the keyboard.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Yeah I saw that but it’s not very accurate

  • alin alin

    Of course they can.

  • Koibito888

    Sorry but transformations even in Z were always headed for the more subtle. Or for more flashy to be a bad thing. Eventually transformations were gonna be so subtle that it was just gonna be a hair color change and small detail.

    Hell SSGSS ISN’T a new transformation, it’s what fans call ‘Full Power Super Saiyan’ just with God Ki involved now. Old form, new element and what Trunks did was probably the same.

  • Koibito888

    They got to be. I mean hell, back in Frieza Saga Frieza could ‘Blow up planets but can’t even take out a monkey’. I mean with the way power is so straight forward in Z, if you’re fighting a character that can blow up planets you have to be tanking those attacks and durability would have to be as high/higher than attacks received.

    I mean what’s your side of it? I saw down below you believe the opposite? What’s the reasoning for that?

  • Rodrigo Monterier

    It’s just a new power up, and it’s a new transformation too, because it’s on use too much. The buff super saiyan and kaioken wasn’t that used, being ocasional power ups proved to give the fighters some cost, debuff or risk, but the three levels of super saiyan don’t.
    This blue form is completly unecessary and they’re forcing it on Trunks just to sell new models and push it up to another saiyans, creating bullsh*t theories about “absorving god power” and stuff.

    Blue transformation is a new transformation, no matter if disagree. It change powers, it changer forms.

  • Rodrigo Monterier

    Btw, it’s kinda a shame that SS2 and SS3 didn’t have much appearences and they just got this stupid god thing out of nowhere. Bet they will make SS3 Vegeta in one episode just for the fans be “oh look ss3 vegeta, awesome, akira is so cool and dbs is nice” like they did with the kaioken.

  • Ryumancer

    How and why?

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Well if Goku could survive a planet exploding or a cell self destructive why not put up.an energy field which can hold air? He can fly at light speed seeing as Vegeta did in a filler during the garlic JR arc, and speaking of Vegeta he died in that explosion now we didn’t see how he died but it’s a safe bet he didn’t die from lost of air. So it’s not really a good source to say to rely on, also that guy even made up a ridiculous comment about Vegeta not hurting Beerus during the BOG movie

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I just made my reason to Ryuu

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I can understand them taking on a blast that can blow up a planet due to that attack needs to go to the planets core or at least close enough to it. We have not seen any character besides Beerus, Champa, Whis, or Frieza who survive a planet exploding. Now I could be wrong but I have not seen it

  • alin alin

    Well first destroying the actual core of a planet is much harder than just destroying the planet, the science of which is very tedious and boring to get into, but if they can take an attack that would destroy a planets core (not that they need to do that to destroy planets) the megatons would be astronomical. Even when we see characters survive attacks that would easily destroy planets such as Goku fighting Beerus the megatons easily eclipse all of the worlds nuclear arsenal, which would need to be multiplied a few times to actually blow up Earth. So it stands to reason planetary durability for the Saiyans at least is a must. The humans on the other hand such as Tien, and Krillin I’m not sure. Since they are largely irrelevant to current battles and even before that.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Well the whole universe thing no one really died let alone Vegeta died due to Freiza destroyed the earth and he should be a universal buster like Goku and Beerus (tho not sure if two beings with the same god like powers pinch8ng would consider universal buster cause if that was the case than Frieza would ve to)

  • Ryumancer

    The video clearly stated a self-destructing Cell had an overwhelming amount of ki, too much for a seemingly relaxed Goku to shield from. Maybe he also felt an obligation to share the fate of King Kai and his pets. Probably also a time where cinematic time comes into play.

    Pretty sure Vegeta wasn’t LS yet in the Garlic Jr. Saga. The planet Vegeta was on seemed a lot closer to that nearby planet than our moon would be to Earth.

    Vegeta would’ve had more than enough ki to withstand a weakened Frieza’s planet destruction blast. Vegeta “likely” perished…and it would be due to lack of air because Saiyans can’t survive in a complete vacuum. He could’ve tanked the explosion itself easily because he’s withstood planet busting attacks and stronger.

    It was Super that Vegeta wasn’t hurting Beerus in. In BoG, he was hurting Beerus a little bit.

  • alin alin

    I believe the manga covered the lack of “universal destruction” in later fights with the Ki control explanation. Something that if you haven’t heard of I can quickly explain. They also state later from Beeus and Whis that Frieza is likely alive after earth was destroyed, one reason being he’s obviously tough enough to tank one and two he can breath in space. They go onto to state Vegeta died via not being able to breath in space.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    That doesn’t make sense than why not put up a force field

  • alin alin

    Just plot induced stupidity. They needed him to die so he did lol

  • Koibito888

    Yes but unlike previous transformations, which were extensions of SSJ (lol and yes the did have risks and costs, you can’t use 3 without burning out your power and Goku specifically decided to train base and SSJ1 because 2 still burns energy), SSGSS is two powers we already knew all about put together. It wasn’t some new evolution, it was two previously established things put together.

    My point in my reply to Brofist was that because of this, it’s asinine to assume that the design could have been anything drastic. Because it was based on two things we already knew about, it could only change as much as these two new things and anything beyond that would be too much. What he calls ‘just hair dye’ is the only valid design choice these new forms could have had.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Vegeta was during the Freiza arc, that’s like saying Frieza himself wasn’t, and we know he was.

    And I get that the SD is at their max but to share the fate with king kai or don’t have enough time to prepare for sounds like an excuse to me.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Lol

  • Ryumancer

    That arc in general is pretty big hot spot for debate in terms of superluminal speeds.

    That’s where that “cinematic time” crap seems to apply. Kinda working in the opposite direction of Broly destroying the galaxy.

  • Koibito888

    The anime did that in the same fight. Literally how they stopped from destroying the universe was by controlling their ki/strikes/damage output, learning to direct it to the target and learning to tank the damage. That was the solution right there.

    And did they actually say Vegeta died from lack of air? Did they specifically explain that? I already know that would have to be the reason as you said, Frieza survived the blast and he was weakened, but did they actually say that he died from no air instead of the explosion?

  • Koibito888

    I mean Whis and Beerus said before it happened that anyone would be safe next to them. They didn’t really care otherwise/outside of that range. Plus why would Whis waste the effort when he already knew he could undo it? It makes perfect sense why Whis wouldn’t really care to put a force field around anyone but themselves and anyone who just so happens to be close enough.

  • alin alin

    See I don’t get why people (no one here in particular) don’t wanna buy that explanation (Ki control) when plenty of other series such as Saint Seiya if you’ve heard of it have the exact same explanation for controlled damage output and it’s accepted without question lol.

    And yes. Akira in one of his untranslated interviews went in depth with that. Still waiting on it to be published stateside.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I’m not talking about that I’m talking about Goku abd Vegeta not putting a force field on themselves

  • Koibito888

    Yeah. It’s literally anime logic – logic used in multiple fictions to the point where even though it’s a completely fantastical and arbitrary idea, it just makes sense in the logic of the series because it’s so widely accepted. It’s pretty much an anime trope. And honestly it kinda doesn’t matter what other people think. Canon is canon, opinions mean nothing to it and in Super it was thoroughly explained. It was even the sole thing that solved the very problem of the universe about to be destroyed. It wasn’t just explained it was clearly demonstrated, it is fact and anyone not wanting to accept that is really just incorrect.

    And yes I absolutely love Saint Seiya lol.

    That’s awesome if he did. I can’t wait to see that if true because so many people wonder about that.

  • Koibito888

    Since when do Goku and Vegeta put force fields on themselves to hold air? Nothing has ever hinted at such an ability and hell, the only time a ‘force field’ was ever used like that it was by Vegetto and he definitely didn’t have a large field that was air tight – it was a thin aura around him that he could clearly breathe through else he would’ve had to hold his breath when he went into Buu considering it fit to his body and wasn’t a rounded air tight barrier like Whis puts up. I honestly don’t even have a clue as to where you’re getting such an idea to be honest.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    ….. In a couple of movies and most likely in the show/book they have shown them putting up force fields, when Vegeta fought that big monster in the city he was thrown in a building with civilian and as the monster was about to blast him and the people he formed a force field around the upper building protecting him and the folks.

    Ki is very flexible seeing as it can form and take matter, it’s not impossible. Heck Frieza did it to Goku as an attack

  • Koibito888

    Well first off non canon info is not really something you can pull to call bullcrap on something like ‘why didn’t they do this or that’, sure we can speculate what is possible from it but that’s no grounds to say they could do something for the purpose of blaming the canon plot for not including it. Like we can speculate Vegeta or anyone could do that for the sake of theorizing, but that’s not something to say ‘he did it there so he should have done it in a separate canon’.

    Secondly, I don’t really feel like these examples show what you’re suggesting. In the movie in question Vegeta throws his arms forward and all we see is a barrier in front of him (we see no back to the barrier, so we can’t really assume it went all the way around him) and the force of the blast still got through it as everyone else in the room was still sent flying, just the flames didn’t. Just because they can make a barrier does not mean it would hold air, nor does Vegeta doing this in a non canon movie automatically mean he could do it in canon. In fact, seeing him not do it in RoF is very good evidence that he can’t, or that it’s just not that simple.

    As for Frieza, not once did he use something like that defensively. The only times he did something like any sort of barrier it was either strictly a telekinesis move that explodes when it touches anything, very unstable, or when he surrounds himself with it and flies into the opponent. Neither of these uses suggest that it could be used as an air tight defensive barrier.

    Ki is flexible yes, but only to the skill and power of the user. We’ve only seen a small few characters manipulate Ki in such a solid way and none of them defensively literally until Vegetto – it can’t be easy to do. Like I said, in canon, only once has anyone done a ‘force field’ and that was Vegetto, and it certainly was not the kind of force field you’re describing.

    So with that in mind, plus the fact that Vegeta isn’t really a defensive fighter in the first place so why would he go out of his way to practice his ki in such a way, means that making a barrier that can hold air while tanking an attack is either not easy, or just not something that can be done with conventional Ki abilities.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Shorten it, also it was shown in canon of other character’s putting a force field and a force field doesn’t have to have a back or a 360, the move Frieza did was still consider a as such that can detonate on impale.

    Adriod 17 did one during his fight with piccolo, Buu did so as well in his fight with Goku and Vegeta. The move isn’t impossible to do

  • Koibito888

    It has to have a back/be a 360 degree barrier to be able to hold air. That’s the point we’re discussing lol. And yes, I’m not saying Frieza’s moves weren’t force fields, I’m saying that with one specifically exploding when it touches anything but him wouldn’t be a move he could use as a barrier as anything touching it would set it off. And as for the other move there is no proof that it was air tight. The point is that for a force field to do what you’re suggesting it has to be able to hold air – something no character has specifically shown.

    As for 17 and Buu, these were technology and magic respectively. We have never seen a character naturally, with unaided Ki, make a barrier that specifically holds a breathable volume of air and the first time we saw someone like that make a force field it was Vegetto and no way that one was air tight. Not saying it’s impossible, just saying that with all that in mind it’s probably not as easy as to assume anyone can do it. Nor does any of those examples prove that Vegeta has to be able to do it.

    My point is that Vegeta not using it when he was blown into space doesn’t contradict anything we’ve seen in canon and as such it’s more likely that it’s proof that he can’t do it or just never practiced such a defensive move, rather than something to say ‘it was bullcrap’ that he didn’t.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Vegeta has use a force field during the saiyan and Frieza saga, heck Goku uses one during the majin Vegeta fight when.

    And my point was stating if Vegeta can use it as a form of protection he could have used it during the planet exploding.

    And Vegito barrier was only design to prevent him to being completely absorb, he did not count on buus bio system to reject fusions.

    And chaiochu was also one person to use force fields and he specialize in his ki and pyshic powers. And last time I checked every Z warriors has this. So you can’t say buu force field was mainly aging when we know magic and ki are two separate things

  • Koibito888

    Well yeah, he could probably have used one to block the explosion no problem. But the explosion wasn’t what killed him, and nothing hints that any character could make a barrier like Whis that can hold/sustain air.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Of course it can hold air due to it surrounding the user abd air in its space, the only thing they need to worry about is getting to another planet. Though that won’t be a problem since they are FTL.

    Akira tends to forget how fast these guys are

  • Koibito888

    It’s possible for a force field to block Ki but not anything else, or not air. So just going all around them doesn’t automatically mean it holds air – as it’s not inherent, we need actual proof of that particular trait before we can assume that.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    It’s common sense for it to.hold air if not they would be suffocating in it

  • Koibito888

    IF it was air tight. See you’re assuming it’s air tight. You’re assuming if a Ki shield was put up around the user that it automatically would be air tight and so it either has to hold air so they can breathe, or block air so if it didn’t hold it they would suffocate. But there are no examples of this. That’s not inherent. There’s no reason to inherently assume a Ki shield blocks anything else but Ki and physical attacks. So we can’t just assume that it blocks air too without any clear example of it.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    It’s not assuming it’s logical

  • Koibito888

    There has to be any specific hint at all in series for it to be logical. There has to be any hint that Ki blocks air.

    In fact, the only time we ever see anything like this is with Vegetto. Vegetto was the only character to put up a barrier of Ki around him and have no room for air in it. It wasn’t a sphere or a shape with space for air, it lined his body completely. If what you’re saying is true, if it’s just logical to assume Ki blocks air, Vegetto would not be able to breathe when he had it on him. There was no space for air to be held in and air wouldn’t be able to get through by your logic.

    Except Vegetto is clearly breathing through this barrier. He even lets out a sigh of relief which had to pass through the barrier if he was able to do it at all. So our one and only clear example of whether or not air can pass through a Ki barrier shows that it does pass through.

    So logic would dictate that air inherently does pass through normal everyday Ki barriers.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    He sigh after the barrier was down and that barrier was able to block buu absorption goo which is matter, and what is air made of? Hmmm? Hmmm? Lol.

  • Koibito888

    Just because it blocks one type of matter does not mean it blocks all types, that’s the point I’m making. Just because it blocks one is no reason to assume it blocks all. We need proof.

    And no he didn’t, I just watched before saying it in the first place and watched just now again to make sure. He sighs just after he lands and then spends the next like minute talking out loud through the barrier.

    Even just checked the manga. He is clearly talking through the barrier. So we do have proof, proof that air passes through it.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    No lol you m8ght need to watch and read that again, there was no art style of air coming out of his mouth, and when he landed he made a grunt sound. That’s normal heck people who scuba diving and lift anything under water does that. Lol

    And he might be able to talk though the barrior doesn’t mean anything, sounds aren’t matter lol.

  • Koibito888

    Incorrect. He does in fact let out a grunt as he lands and right after that but the very first sound after this he makes, “whew” a sigh of relief.

    “And he might be able to talk though the barrior doesn’t mean anything, sounds aren’t matter”

    Do you understand how sound works? Or talking for that matter? You need to be able to breathe to talk in the first place.

    Sound itself needs a medium to travel through. If there was no air in his barrier and his barrier did not allow air to pass through it, it would be impossible for him to speak or breathe or sigh or make any sound. Sound is not matter but it requires matter to travel through. If Vegetto’s barrier was in fact air tight with no air inside of it, he would not be able to talk or breathe, he wouldn’t even be able to grunt. His barrier lines his form, no air is inside of it. If air couldn’t pass through it, he couldn’t even breathe out to speak.

    And you still haven’t provided any basis for this assumption. You say it’s common logic but it’s not. There is no science preexisting the series that would automatically insinuate how the fictional substance of Ki in DBZ works. The only ‘common logic’ that exists about Ki is what’s presented in the series and without anything about your claim being proven in the series, there is no ‘common logic’. The common logic has to tangibly exist, have actual visual proof, to be common OR logical. Your claim is neither. It has no proven examples in series and without being a real substance it has no comparison to real physics at all. So no, your claim is not common knowledge or logical or inherent or common sense or any of that. It is an assumption until you can provide actual in series examples of your claim. Without them, there is no logic supporting your idea and your claim is just an assumption. And as an assumption it is utterly baseless unless you can show the proof behind your logic.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Yeah you need to reread that manga and rewatch it, in chp 507 page 4 through 6 it was not shown air coming out of that barrier. And in tge anime it made sounds but that doesn’t mean air is coming out of the barrier.

    Sound is not a masd it’s different in that it is the propagation of a pressure wave through a medium of particles. Since it is a wave, it is not considered a form of matter.

    I’ve shown my proof, and hope you actually see it

  • Koibito888

    You have not shown where they have ever shown air being blocked by Ki.

    If he couldn’t breathe, he couldn’t talk.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Because there was air in the barrier

  • Koibito888

    Impossible. There was no space for air in it. It lined his form completely and fit to it. Even as it disperses we see no space between it and him.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    If there was no air he would suffocate, now we do know these characters have strong lungs and can survive some of the hussness environment such as high or low temperatures that involves thin air. Heck the fact that they can go to the look out and fly in high spaces.

  • Koibito888

    “If there was no air he would suffocate”

    Exactly. So we know he had to be breathing through the ki because there was absolutely no space for air in that barrier. Ergo, ki barriers aren’t inherently able to block air.

    Not saying they can’t at all ever but they probably have to be made as such. It’s not automatic as it has not been proven as such.

    I mean the fact that vegeta didn’t do it when blown into space already means he couldn’t. Nothing from the series has shown he could and when doing it would have saved his life, he didn’t, ergo he either can’t make one solid and precise enough to hold air consistently or that’s just not how ki barriers work.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Because there was air in there, the moment he put up the barrier it capture the air surrounding that was surrounded by his body.

    And the series have shown to do things that doesn’t make any sense such as Vegeta not putting up a barrier to why it took Trunks so long to get to his house to bring the dragonball radar to the look out, he can fly at light speed. He should have already been at his house less thn a sec.

  • Koibito888

    Yeah maybe if it wasn’t touching his body but that barrier was flush against his body like it was an aura coming off him with no space for air.

    And yes it does. For something to be logical in a series there has to actually be logic behind it. We’ve seen ki as an intangible aura, an explosive, a rather unstable energy. We’ve seen multiple instances where characters were thrown into water, from the air to the water and almost be suffocated. The LOGICAL thing to derive from that would be that they can’t just do it so easily like that. You’re basing your assumption off what ki looks like to you. It looks solid and is a barrier so it must block everything with no limits is your literal logic you’re presenting here.

    But actual events from the series, how characters respond to being thrown into places they can’t breathe in but never thought to do this. Goku and vegeta are even in fluid in buu’s stomach at one point AFTER they recently experienced vegetto putting up a barrier but no they don’t think to do it then either and finally we have vegeta not doing it here when it would save his life. This clearly shows they can’t do it or it’s not easy and your ONLY basis to debate this is what it looks like is happening to you because literally NOTHING ever hints they can easily do this yet MULTIPLE instances show that they can’t. This is the definition of how logic works, logic is based on what is most likely based on what we know and are shown and so it’s literally the logical answer that that’s not how ki works but you somehow think it’s the other way around based on nothing from the series meaning your assumption can’t be based on anything in the series and how it looks like it works, how you feel how it works is all you’re going off of.

    ‘Air is matter and ki blocks all matter’ well show me where ki is proven to block all matter with no limits whatsoever that lets you just assume that this is the norm. Otherwise no, there is no logic to your claim because not only does nothing from the series suggest you’re right but multiple instances suggest you’re wrong. Yes, there absolutely does need to be proof because your assumption goes against the logic, it’s an outlandish claim and that has never just been accepted as the norm by the fanbase as a whole – you have no reason to assume this and every time I tell you that your only response is “it’s logical” “it makes sense” but you have literally not once cited at all where or how this logic is reached, just that it simply is. But that’s not how logic works.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I did not read all that, and how do you know it was flush to his body?

    One you said you saw air coming out of the barrier as Vegito sigh yet that wss never shown.

    And yes air is matter but that doesn’t mean ki can’t hold air, and when have you ever seen ki being intangible?

  • Koibito888

    Bottom line is Vegeta didn’t do it so clearly he couldn’t, and there is nothing from the series that proves CLEARLY that he could so clearly he couldn’t. Without any proof, your claim is only assumption and nothing more.

    Long story short, for something to be logical it has to actually have logic behind it. You’re only claim for it being logical is that it simply is – but that’s not how logic works. Something has to be the established norm for it to be a logical assumption.

    And did you see any space between him and the barrier? Nope.

    No I did not say I saw air coming from him I’m saying he sighed and for a sigh to happen in a barrier with no space for air, it had to have passed through it otherwise it would have nowhere to go – same as him talking, breathing, or anything that requires air.

    Just because air is matter doesn’t mean Ki CAN hold it. You actually need your logic to be logical for it to be real logic.

    Where have I seen Ki be intangible? Uhhhh aura? Literally the aura coming off characters any time they power up. It’s not solid. It acts like it’s fire around them. You actually have to focus Ki to make it solid and not once has a character shown this to block air. Ki blocking air is not the norm and nothing suggests that it is, so no, it’s not ‘just the logical assumption’ or ‘just makes sense’. Have some logic behind your logic.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    The reason why he didn’t do it was due to the plot, they needed a death and Vegeta was the one that was needed. That’s the bottom line, not that he couldn’t make a bubble to survive in space.

    There doesn’t have to be space most of the time when we see people charging up in a ball of energy it has no space, like Goku going ssj3.

    Ki isn’t intangible it’s a force every time they charge or put it up a force of wind is seen blowing, in fact when ever someone is charging their aura people can feel it that’s tge opposite of intangible.

    And even though DBZ ki is consider as a force it still implies the real term of martial arts ki, such as life, air, healing and so on

  • Koibito888

    Vegeta not using an ability he was never proven to have in the first place is not ‘due to plot’.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Oh really so explain to me how Goku can go to the moon than but suddenly he can’t survive the vacuum of space when the planet is about to explode, or Bardock fighting Frieza (killed) in space. Seems like a plot hole. And no they can’t hold their breath in space.

  • Koibito888

    You do realize nothing you said actually disputes what I said right? Just pointing out that DB-DBZ does have plot holes doesn’t mean everything’s a plot hole. Yes, DB has plot holes, even DBZ has plot holes. So? Doesn’t really have anything to do with what we’re talking about, no one said DB didn’t have plot holes – doesn’t mean this instance has to be one. Especially when it’s based off Vegeta’s ki not having an ability we never saw him have in the first place.

    So yes Goku going to the moon was most likely a plot hole. Woohoo you uncovered one of the most blatant and overcited plot holes from way back in DB, doesn’t really mean anything here lol.

    Bardock was about as close to Vegeta as God Goku was to Earth and Toriyama’s words were ‘they can breathe a little in the upper atmosphere’. Yes yes, I know, that’s not how the real science of a real planet’s atmosphere works – good thing the writer’s words mean more to the story than real life science.