Dragon Ball Super: New Saiyan Previewed, Dragon Ball Z: The Real 4-D Returns

Here comes a new Saiyan! In the Universe Survival Tournament, we will be introduced to a new Saiyan character, one who has been previewed before and is in the scan below as a female Saiyan who can transform into a Super Saiyan! Designed by the original Dragon Ball creator, Akira Toriyama, this unnamed female Saiyan has no tail in her normal state and resembles the popular filler character, Brolly, in her Super Saiyan form. The scan mentions she will be an important character that has already appeared in the opening for the series and is playfully reserved about if she is from Universe 6 or Universe 7.

We aren’t sure why the scan mentions Universe 7 since that’s Beerus/Whis’ universe and we already know who the fighters and Saiyans from that universe are. Maybe we’re in for a surprise in Dragon Ball Super? Saiyan Island hopes to have additional information on the female Saiyan as soon as it is announced.

For those wondering what Dragon Ball Z: The Real 4-D is, it was a cinematic attraction at Universal Studios Japan last year that recreated Goku vs Frieza in 4D. It returns this year on June 30. For those unfamiliar, 4D takes video to the next level, providing viewers with an sensor-equipped motion seats, wind, strobe, fog, rain and various smells to enhance the viewing experience. A 3D version of the video can be found on YouTube.

  • Aalon

    ferst

  • 2econd

  • Jōichirō Yukihira

    Looks like a doodle.

  • Paul Watson

    It Really Does, Lmao. It Looks Fake Tbh.

  • Paul Watson

    I Say It Looks Fake Because It Looks Entirely Different From Anything We’ve Seen Of Her Thus Far.

  • Hider Xera

    Dope

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Why do you capitalize every word?

  • Paul Watson

    Why Do U Care?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Just trying to figure out why someone would intentionally type like cancer personified.

  • I like her design it fits her perfectly.

  • uhMayzedHD

    Look like she got in a fight with a blow drier.

  • WHY DOES SHE LOOK SO FAKE?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I like her. She looks very carefree.

  • You gotta know! Ahtma! WHY IS SHE DRAWN LIKE THAT?

  • Seventh

    In what way?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What do you mean?

  • uhMayzedHD

    A tail and she would be complete. I’m tired of seeing Saiyans without a tale at this point they look like Super Human when they transform there Aliens for crying out loud. #BringBackTheTail

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Tails would be hella inconvenient for a Saiyan society that’s still on one planet.

  • Her character art looks so…. simple plain, like a doodle.

  • Seventh

    Simple isn’t bad, it’s just how toriyama draws his characters.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s art that’s actually by Toriyama. He’s been working mostly with flat color lately. Look at how he drew these ones:

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  • It’s to the point where it doesn’t look right to me. I honestly felt it was a fake scan for the majority of the day.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I know Toriyama’s art style at first glance. Compare her to Gine.

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  • I heavily prefer his earlier work (as in Namek). This feels… too simple for me.

  • Burdock?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Late Saiyan and up to Namek was the most detail-oriented variety of his work. As he went into Cell and Buu his art style started to become a bit more simpler and uniform. His early Z work is gorgeous, but I really like how his art is now. It’s definitely an organic evolution of his advancement as an artist, not to mention when he renders drawings with shading his illustrations just look fantastic.

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  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Burdock is Viz’s translation for Bardock.

  • That’s pretty cool.
    I’m still looking at the art as I did when I was a kid, when I watched a guy so buff his bicep was proably twice the size of my head. Seeing them like this is so surreal. They’re still jacked but all more lean.

  • I don’t see the need for the change.

  • ®CodeBreaker™

    Gotta say she looks badass as is.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It is a pretty drastic change. From
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    to
    i.gyazo.Com/bdf606f25bbd770423ea8645f8c2063f.jpg

    But that’s what drawing for decades will do to you.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They go with their own translations. I think it’s something like they can’t use Funimation’s.

  • uhMayzedHD

    She going to hit or miss character what going break it for me the power screaming if it suck or fuuck up voice in Broly form

  • She didn’t even give credit to Linger. Dude if you are reading this I am sorry that it didn’t happen. Maybe next time I will use caps so she can see it or something.

  • A planet wide curfew would be weird, even if it did happen only a couple years.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    Looks like something a fan would draw. Scrawny, flat and simple like Cabba

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    I also wish she had a tail, I guess they want it to be completely different from GT since SS4’s have tails.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s likely because they’re a peaceful people the U6 Saiyans mandatory have tails removed at birth. It’s better to cut the tail off at birth than have to deal with the threat of a giant monkey appearing on a full moon.

  • Rojai

    I experienced 4-D once

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    But you can also say that planet Vegeta was kinda peaceful right? Only was bad when frieza came around and they didn’t have any ape problems. I just want the race to be like the old days and back to the roots.

  • Rojai

    Peaceful?

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    Like taking over planets and then living off of the wealth. King Vegeta wasn’t that bad of a person. He’s just like frieza.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Vegeta wasn’t even the Saiyan’s original homeworld. The original Saiyan homeworld was destroyed by the original Super Saiyan, and they rode a comet onto Planet Plant, homeworld of the Tuffles. The Saiyans waited for a full moon and completely wiped the planet of all the Tuffles, and then were contacted by the PTO to work as space pirates. U7 Saiyans are the furthest from peaceful you could get.

  • Rojai

    “Wasn’t that bad of a person”

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    Wait I thought the Tuffle stuff was from GT? Didn’t know that was canon. So the baby fight did have some meaning.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    The Tuffles existed pre-GT.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    He’s bad, but he only feared a strong saiyan warrior. He cried and did other stuff for frieza when asked.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Because his power level was roughly around 10,000. Frieza was literally hundreds of times more powerful than he was.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    Oh that was unexpected.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    True! I miss hearing about power levels.

  • Rojai

    F*ck powerlevels

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    F*ck Power levels
    F*ck Super saiyans……..
    AND
    F*ck you

  • Hider Xera

    I am 4-D

  • Hider Xera

    Actually Ahtma it was stated that the saiyans of Universe 6 eventually lost their tails due to evolution meaning no new saiyans in U6 are born with tails.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Linger told me he’s boycotting the site now.

  • Dbz Lover

    Brolly lookin hawt

  • Hider Xera

    Oh shitt that means their bodies no longer viewed the tails as necessary meaning the ape transformation is unnecessary meaning ssj4 is unnecessary…Toriyama you sly dog.

  • Ryumancer

    Huh? Because the admin’s being a b!tch or something?

  • Ryumancer

    You mean like every Saiyan in existence other than Nappa? XD

  • Ryumancer

    I’m fine with either design really.

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    I agree. It would be nice to know her name though. :/

  • gogeta207

    i saw this be4 long time hmmm

  • Rhafty

    like i said before i hope her “battle” attire is what we’ve seen so far.. that hair and outfit doesn’t look all that cool.. but maybe in the actual anime and manga she’ll look better.

    some users mentioned that their trying to confuse fans by stating the different universes she could be from.
    one theory is both of those ladies might be from different universes and are the same person (which would explain why their both on the same page).

  • A objectively bad drawing

    I didn’t exactly do much.

  • @GoldLiger:disqus
    @Your_opinion_is_irrelevant:disqus
    About Vegito saying Zamasu wasn’t a Kaioshin in the manga, we misinterpreted it, It was actually well thought out, Zamasu didn’t become a Kaioshin i.e a supreme kai, he was an apprentice since he didn’t complete his training or whatever, he’s still a shinjin at the moment.

    So that rule about only kaioshins being able to be fused permanently still kinda holds true, don’t know if half of the fusion being a supreme kai and the other half being a mortal adds to it but since Old Kai is actually there, it kinda holds true.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Liger’s baby boy Toytaro makes no mistakes.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Really like Toriyamas current artsyle.Not as much as his saiyan saga-namek saga work but it’s cute.

  • Brace yourself for Liger’s bragging in t minus whenever he shows up.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Would prefer it if her hair was a bit smaller though.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Toytaro pls

    pbs.twimg.Com/media/C9uKj_hXgAIjV8G.jpg

  • Ryumancer

    Wow. You can’t even deny it’s a ripoff at that point. XD

  • A objectively bad drawing

    He does this a lot.The most annoying part is that he can make good scenes by himself.He jut can’t be bothered it seems.

    A lot of fans sugarcoat this by sating that it’s paying homage to DBZ.He just likes stealing from the original manga.So far there is at least one “homage” per chapter.

  • Ryumancer

    Well the main homage I can remember is something both the anime and the manga did, the Final Flash that Vegeta did against Magetta.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    He also reused Vegeta’s kick against Cell in the Goku vs Beerus fight.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I like her hair. Also yeah, I think Toriyama’s modern art style would be great if it was adapted better than Yamamuro’s designs. How I yearn for Nakatsuru or Tate to do designs for this series..

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Do we have any reason as to why Nakatsuru left?He used to work for Toei i believe but now hes a freelance.

  • Ryumancer

    O_o

    I don’t remember that one. I gotta go back and check. So you said Goku kicked Beerus in the head like Vegeta kicked Cell?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No known reason, probably that’s just the way he felt.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    It was aimed at the stomach.But Beerus dodged it.Cell on the other hand got hit.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    @ryumancer:disqus

    This is the panel i’m talking about..

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  • A objectively bad drawing

    In Toytaro’s defense it is a minor panel.

  • Ryumancer

    Huh. Weird.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Nah, that one’s similar to the Vegeta panel I know you’re referring to but it’s not anywhere as close as that Zamasu one is.

  • Ryumancer

    Oh THAT kick. That kick he used on Semi-Perfect Cell. I thought you meant the kick to the head that Vegeta tried on Perfect Cell.

    My bad. Either way, thanks for taking the time to actually look up the panel.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    The Zamasu one is probably the biggest copy hes done besides Goku and Vegeta’s pose in the room of spirit and time(though i can forgive that,the poses are kinda iconic)

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toyotaro’s work output is also.. not terribly satisfactory. He gets a month at a time to work on chapters, Toriyama was doing his weekly and yet his example is so much better.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah, those poses are fine because those fighting stances are legendary, but the Zamasu one just strikes as lazy.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    I think hes just kinda slow.One time he did a 30 page chapter i believe and the first half was very mediocre.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    See, that’s something that bugs me about Toyotaro’s work. There’s so many little things he could do to improve it but a lot of it feels really half-assed.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toyotaro in one month

    i.gyazo.Com/cc6ab629857ab8e46ca99cbb6ac06303.png

    VERSUS

    Toriyama in one week

    i.imgur.Com/ORolUWY.jpg

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Sometimes i forget just how good of an artist Toriyama is.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Tbh say what you want about Toriyama’s writing style but his art is still god-tier. He has such a fantastic understanding of panel structure, line weight, perspective, and flow. He also almost effortlessly juggled sharper angles and rounded curves in his older work hand-in-hand, like it was just natural to him. His modern stuff is more curvy and organic but that’s just because that’s where his art has taken him.

  • Ryumancer

    He’s my favorite Eastern illustrator.

    My favorite Western one? Bruce Timm. You have a favorite illustrator in the Western world?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Favorite western illustrator is a hard tie between Genndy Tartakovsky, and Rob Liefeld. For eastern artwork it’s a three way tie between Akira Toriyama, Katsuhiro Otomo, and Shotaro Ishinomori.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    My favorite western “illustrator” is Richard Williams.Hes an animator but that he counts as an illustrator, right?

    sakugabooru.Com/data/5ef422a0d6ad627864a09c1184806cdd.mp4

  • Ryumancer

    Tartakovsky did Powerpuff Girls, Dexter’s Lab and Samurai Jack, right? What did Liefeld do again? I forgot. And for your last Eastern pick, what’d he do again? I know Otomo did Akira, but that’s all I remember.

  • Ryumancer

    Vivid and vibrant, nice. What works are he famous for? Or was that one of his only projects?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Powerpuff Girls and Dexter’s Lab was both Tartakovsky and Craig McCracken, but Samurai Jack is Tartakovsky’s baby as well as Symbionic Titan. Liefeld is a prolific Marvel artist, most famous for his unbelievably inconsistent artwork on top of the creation of the pop culture icon Deadpool. Shotaro Ishinomori was the student of Osamu Tezuka, and created many famous manga like Cyborg 009 and the original Kamen Rider manga.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    He worked on a bunch of stuff i believe.But his most famous work is “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” and “The Thief and the Cobble”

  • Ryumancer

    Didn’t know that about those shows, good to know. Oh, he CREATED Deadpool? Nice! Oh yeah, Cyborg 009 was nice. Didn’t he also do Kikaider?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hot damn Roger Rabbit? I love that movie. It’s the only time in history that Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse have appeared on the same screen at the same time.

  • Ryumancer

    LOVED Who Framed Roger Rabbit. That was my whole childhood!

  • Ryumancer

    Too bad Hanna Barbera didn’t exist yet when that movie took place. :/

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah, Kikaider was his. It’s surprising you mentioned Kikaider of all things, that’s one of his more obscure ones. He also did a really stellar Legend of Zelda manga for Link to the Past, has fantastic artwork and one of the best endings I’ve ever seen in Zelda media.

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  • Ryumancer

    Kikaider was on Adult Swim for a short time and I remembered it being of a very similar look to Cyborg 009 so I guess I merely put 2 and 2 together.

    Didn’t know they did Zelda comics. Huh.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    See, I only remembered Kikaider very, very recently when my sister showed me a screenshot of it and I exploded with nostalgia but remembered almost nothing about it other than his robot form.

    Yeah, Zelda’s got a few manga out. Ishinomori only did one for Link to the Past for Nintendo Power in 1992. It’s unique because even though he’s a Japanese artist it’s oriented right-to-left, and to my knowledge there’s no digital coloring to any frame in it and it was all hand-colored with paint.

  • Ryumancer

    Indeed. I’m surprised there wasn’t a crossover or at least a cameo in Cyborg 009 that featured Kikaider.

    I thought they would’ve stuck with video games considering how atrocious that animation was.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Kikaider predates Cyborg 009 originally by 8 years, so it was likely that when the anime that got made in the early 2000s they didn’t want to have callbacks because the style was a dead giveaway that it was the same overall author. AFAIK Kikaider got made because the Cyborg 009 anime did well in Japan.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Nah I perfer Yamamuro over Toriyamas modern one. Do you really think the female broly looks good?!

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You’re saying you prefer a completely inferior copy of the original style. Yamamuro can’t made heads nor tails of what features of Toriyama’s art that he wants to implement with the old stuff, and his solution has been to combine the worst aspects of both into what I can only call a pained amalgamation.

    Fem Broly looks good like that. Toriyama’s modern style works so well and is miles above Yamamuro in every way.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No, they dont remove them from birth. The reason they don’t have tails is because Evolution

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If only there was a comment made 6 hours ago that corrected me on this.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I didn’t know someone replied ;-;

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No….

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What an excellent and articulate response. Thank you for your elaboration.

  • Ryumancer

    Ah. Makes sense.

  • Izumi

    Resemble Broly’s LSSJ form not SSJ.


  • ….
    Rob Leifeld?

  • SilentSaiyan

    I wouldnt say this around Liger kek.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    We are no longer friends.

  • Dude you do know that Toriyama had lots of time drawing in comparison to Toyotaro. Next time try to find examples of something equal.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    “Dude you do know that Toriyama had lots of time drawing in comparison to Toyotaro”

    >Toriyama had a week to make a 15 page chapter

    >Toytaro had a month to make a ~20 page chapter

  • Doesn’t matter. Toriyama draw probably over 1000 pages worth compared the the few hundred Toyotaro has drawn. Did you forget that Toriyama’s art wasn’t as good when he first started?

    You want to make a comparison then make sure to compare things on even terms.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Toriyama’s art during the beginning of Dragon Ball was still very good.

    And Toytaro isn’t exactly an amateur.

  • No dude stop making BS. Toyotaro’s art is comparable to Toriyama’s first work. Trust me I read the manga just as well so do not lie to me.

    Also one thing of importance: “Toriyama and Toyotaro are not the same person”

    Hope you get what I mean.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    “Toriyama and Toyotaro are not the same person”

    Yeah Toriyama is better.

  • Well duh he had to get better over time of him drawing weekly manga. Like you are comparing a weekly manga artist to an monthly manga artist. If you want to make comparisons then why not compare Toriyama with say Oda or Kishimoto since they are/were in the same type of environment.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    As for the art during the beginning of Dragon Ball, you just don’t know how making character designs works.

    youtube.Com/watch?v=jJK7oysHoMw

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Oda is better than Toytaro too.

  • -_- A random ytubes OPINION.

  • Ryumancer

    It’d count more than yours though. :/

  • A objectively bad drawing

    A more relevant and important opinion than yours.

  • Duh he drawn over 8000 pages worth of manga panels. Like seriously dude it’s like comparing a skinny nerd to a professional football player.

  • Because it matches your biased opinion.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Toytaro has been drawing Dragon Ball for lord knows how long.Toriyama was better than him at designing characters,page layout and overall just more skilled since the beginning.

  • Ryumancer

    Other than that, certain youtubers do their homework and research and don’t surrender to their head canon sobbing like a baby and make up crap-shoot theories and accept it as fact. Unlike yourself.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Because he knows the complexity of character design and page layout.Unlike you.

  • But not on a professional level. See the difference is that Toyotaro didn’t have the pressure Toriyama had when drawing the weekly manga. You keep missing the point dude.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    You keep missing the point too.Toriyama in Dr.Slump was better than Toytaro.

  • And he is a fan of the work. That in and off itself is biased. You need to find someone who isn’t a fan of DB and can look at the artstyle with no nostalgia glasses.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    You’re a fan of Toytaro.So i need to find someone who isn’t to get a non biased opinion about him.

  • Ryumancer

    Uh, you’re a fanboy of Toyotaro. You’re biased the opposite direction. So you have no right to lecture other people’s bias when yours is fuming off you like some rancid vapor.

  • Whatever your nostalgia glasses makes you blind anyway. At least I do not make stupid comparisons when it comes to manga unless they are at the same level of work.

  • Ryumancer

    Yeah but you know how the majority feels about that one, right? “F*CK what he thinks”. XD

  • A objectively bad drawing

    I can show you earlier Toriyama illustrations that look better than anything Toytaro has done.

  • Not really. But I do enjoy what he brings to the table. I can at least say that unlike you.

  • Ryumancer

    And your boner for “Toyotaro’s junk” makes you even more blind.

  • Anyway I got work to do so take care.

  • Ryumancer

    Of course you enjoy what he brings to the table…while you’re bent over it taking it from him. 😉

  • Ryumancer

    Bye. Don’t come back anytime soon. 😀

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Look how much better than anything Toytaro has ever produced this looks.

    gyazo.Com/2540079b00c16423e0a909789175dd38.png

  • Ryumancer

    I wish the six degrees of separation were true. Then I’d know a guy, who has a friend, who has a brother, who has a wife, who has a cousin, who has a boyfriend that works at the same office as Toriyama.

    Then I’d say “Dude, some fans of your work are the most toxic otakus the community has to offer”. Then he might ask (if he actually cared, lol) which ones. Then I’d refer to this site and point certain people out, and then Toriyama would chew them out, or dismiss or disown them and some way. Then they’d stay in their corner and drown in their tears and jizz paste and never come back. 😀

    That’d be hilarious. XD

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    W…T…F? O_o

    You are disturbed. lol

  • Ryumancer

    Yeah but everyone here is to some degree. LMAO

  • Ryumancer

    To those who care. I gotta go.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Take care.

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    See ya, man.

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    Would you rather:

    A) Have a PL of several thousand but not be able to breathe in space or regenerate?

    or

    B) Be immortal but have no skills or powers whatsoever?

  • A objectively bad drawing

    I’d rather pick A.Being immortal will get boring at some point.And after some time you’d wish you were dead.

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    I’d pick the same thing. You’re lungs would probably hurt if you couldn’t die but you constantly had to get used to the vacuum of space. XD

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    Ah dammit. I gotta go. Piss. I might be back on later today. lol

  • Hider Xera

    LINGEEEEEER!!

  • Hider Xera

    Looks like some of the manga readers are starting to turn on the manga and have doubts because they thought their God Toyotaro was going to “fix” the ending of the Black arc, but everything is being set up the same way.

  • Di

    Boruto’s eye was basically confirmed to be a tenseigan today

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Immortal

  • Konjiki no Yami

    It was Byakugan, not Tenseigan yet.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah but he has one month. So he has time to fix his mistakes

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Nostalgia lel

  • Di

    it isnt plain grey and byakugans dont have a sun like design around the pupil

  • Yomi

    I’d rather him start making some more iconic shyt than constantly doing this.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Yes?

  • Hider Xera

    I pulled Super Saiyan Rose on global

  • A objectively bad drawing

    I hate you.

  • Hider Xera

    You’re suppose to congratulate me not hate me

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I spend 35 stones and didn’t get a single SSR.

  • Hider Xera

    I got Turles(Great ape) and Super Saiyan Rose. Do you do single or multi summons?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Single.Didn’t have enough stones for a multi.

  • Hider Xera

    Maybe you offended the Dokkan Gods some how.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    My luck must have ran out when i got Gogeta and SSB Kaioken Goku in the same multi summon.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Linger sent the scan to the admin to get featured, and they didn’t credit him.

  • Hider Xera

    Find your lucky place. Mine just so happens to be my bathroom.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Yes.

  • It’s just a super cool eye right now.

  • Goldy Locks doesn’t quantify as “some”.

  • Hider Xera

    I was talking about these threads I saw on Gamefaqs. Liger is turning on his God?

  • Kaihedgie

    Oh, she looks pretty neat o3o

    And I’m guessing them not revealing her origin is because she might actually be from Universe 7 but somehow got whisked away to 6. Or vice versa

  • So, Japan says Saiyan when writing in English.

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    I keep hearing about this Liger dude. What god is he worshipping?

  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    Wait a minute…you’re name seems familiar. Do you have a similar or identical name on YouTube?

  • Enturax/Turbotrup

    Don’t worry, maybe Toriyama doesn’t draw anymore, but he already dropped the ball with Super’s entirety.

  • Calling it now, her name is gonna be Sadal/Sadla/Sadala whatever the name of the planet was.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Eww she looks like that crackhead who gives blow jobs in the back close to the dumpster for 5 bucks, and ask for a bit of your of your gum that your chewing.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    A.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Found some sketches for early design ideas of Cell if anybody cares.

    gyazo.Com/8b59b90bda38f3752bfb183a3a2c5db8.jpg

  • Yomi

    OMFG! NEW VILLAIN CONFIRMED, GOD MODE!!! KILLS BEERUS?!
    image.prntscr.com/image/0632d3f31d6b483abf94213da5b17e42.png

  • Kaihedgie

    Maaaaaaybe. Why do you ask? :U

  • SOMEONEWHOSDISSAPOINTED

    Wait, but the character design we’ve seen from the female Broly was another one, that of a vulberable, frail thin woman, and this one looks entirely different, so what the fucks happened

  • SOMEONEWHOSDISSAPOINTED

    Thats not gonna be her name, but its gonna be where shes from

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Idk

  • Nothing is wrong with her she looks fine.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Yamamuro happened(probably)

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I like her other outfit better tbh. This one looks pretty gross.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Okay between the first appearance we seen of the female broly compare to this……thing, which one do you like the most

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yamamuro>>>>>>Toriyama>>>>Liger’s baby boi toyotaro

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    This one if the hair was a bit smaller.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Go away.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Never!

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yamamuro’s one is 100% better

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    We can no longer be friends.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Lel so cell was going to look like hisoka

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    why can’t you just accept the fact that yamamuro draws good

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I shan’t believe such delusion.

  • SilentSaiyan

    This one here by Akira is way better.

  • SilentSaiyan

    I think it’s the hair thats making me like it better, that or she isn’t looking like some shy girl who hates fighting.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Tha5s the first one with the long straight hair?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I like the hairstyle itself.The size is what bugs me.I still like it more than Yamamuro’s version though.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    We don’t know for sure but Yamamuro is known for ruining good things so that’s what we assume.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    How is yamamuro runing things when his version is better

  • SilentSaiyan

    I scrolled down to see if Liger will still fanboying over Toyotaro, and of course he was. Lmao.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Cool I like that design better, this one we see looks so boring and less interesting

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Don’t text me.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Oh

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Don’t tell me what to do
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  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Don’t dare link a Shida drawing ever again.You aren’t worthy.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Shida draws good like yamamuro 😉

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Eh well cool for you

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I hate you.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    😮

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I love em.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toriyama had one week at a time to do these chapters, what are you talking about? Toyotaro gets a month, and yet somehow produces significantly inferior work.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toriyama still draws, just not on a weekly basis.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No, it isn’t.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Okay for those who like this version of the female broly, explain why?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I just like the art style in which it is drawn more.It’s very Mob Psycho 100-esque.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hey Linger , is really yamamuro the one that does those white highlights, I’m seeing some of his drawings and I don’t see them
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    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/27914
    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/27913
    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/27917
    I’m confused

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I don’t see mob in this but okay

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Boi….

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Mob psycho has bad art style……that explains a lot

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s only some of his genga art and lately in his designs he’s been leaving out the highlights but still adding them in either his corrections or there are designs we aren’t seeing. Check out an awful piece of his DB Kai artwork:

    vignette2.wikia.nocookie.Net/dragonball/images/c/cf/DBKaiPosterArt3.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20130501180234

  • Anthony_weaver86

    No not really the art and color is very bright and unique, simular to OPM. Though I don’t see how her design compare to that

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    There are four things.

    1.Zamasu is a kaioshin.Kaioshin’s don’t have white highlights most of the time.

    2.Those are the character designs.The white highlights are most likely featured in the shading guide.

    3.Goku Black’s design is almost a 100% copy of Toriyama’s which didn’t have white highlights.

    4.That Goku image has white highlights.

  • Vegeta is a name and a planet.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Very minimal but appealing at the same time(to me at least)

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    The goku one has only one on his nose

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Eh

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    This awful ! Really!

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    On his cheek and neck too.We are just seeing the shady side.If we were to see the other side it would be more obvious.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Honestly, it’s just the colors that save this one.If it had the DBS colors it would look like garbage.

  • uhMayzedHD

    Do you like it?

  • Anthony_weaver86

    No I just wanted to see and understand why others do

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Compare it to his old work.

    40.media.tumblr.Com/d46c58f32a693acf4188c29a4530d067/tumblr_naax9urRAf1tjn5uuo1_1280.jpg
    68.media.tumblr.Com/d7f519940481e647d2ada106c179f34e/tumblr_niwvcj7CJL1tjn5uuo1_500.jpg

    Post-2000 he hella stagnated and got worse. By his own admission he doesn’t watch anime other than his own, so he hasn’t seen what modern anime techniques are available or discovered and has only gotten worse.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I agree his old work is better,but his new one doesn’t look like sh1t either.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    This is the best comparison between the old and new art style iv’e found(just ignore the coloring).It’s honestly sad how much worst it’s gotten.And it’s all Yamamuro’s fault.

    i.imgur.Com/7MJM7qn.png

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yes, it does. In that modern example alone, you have: inconsistent line weight (look at Gohan then Piccolo), excessive and unneeded usage of highlights literally everywhere, Goku’s right arm is bad, Vegeta and Piccolo are in identical poses, and Frieza’s hands are both colored completely wrong.

  • uhMayzedHD

    Oooo.
    What you don’t like about it?

    I like the first appearance teaser trailer of her more than this one.

  • Hider Xera

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  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

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  • Hider Xera

    Oh god no

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    @GoldLiger:disqus Toyotaro has been drawing Dragon Ball for at least almost ten years because I can date his original DBAF fan manga to at least 2008. Toriyama only had 7 years of experience when he started Dragon Ball and did it for 9 years straight, so up to the end of Dragon Ball he had been drawing manga for a total of 18 years. Toriyama three years into Dragon Ball (so 10 years into drawing manga) puts it around the King Piccolo saga, which was still miles above what Toyotaro can do at the same time frame of art.

  • She’s just awesome that’s all you need to know.

  • Hider Xera

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  • I like both of them, but this one is more unique.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    pm1.narvii.Com/6328/4deab60731ca4e29bebed221146599e6585d66f2_hq.jpg

  • Hider Xera

    Better than fat Freeza

  • Shida > Dumb yamamorua

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Shida is in a league of his own.

  • Indeed

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro
  • Japanese names are hard to spell don’t @ me.

  • Hider Xera

    i1078.photobucket.Com/albums/w488/Scarpetta96/151.jpg

  • I’m going to make a video about 10 reasons why I’m excited about female Broly.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Any other details or is it because of who is drawing it

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Can you even name 10 reasons?I sure can’t.

  • Not really. I’ll just make a top 5

  • First female saiyan

  • Hider Xera

    I am extremely happy some of these designs didn’t make the cut

  • Which designs made the cut you know what I’m saying?

  • uhMayzedHD

    That’s is just a kid answer.

    Why is Chocolate Icecream better?
    Kid: Because it’s better.

  • Hider Xera

    Huh?

  • uhMayzedHD

    *First Female Super Saiyan

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Pretty sure she’s the first female saiyan outside of the movies anyway.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Can you name 5?

  • uhMayzedHD

    There is a manga of Goku mother.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Lemme know when she gets put in the anime or main manga.

  • uhMayzedHD

    She canon regardless if she wasn’t in the main manga or the anime. She exist but first na.
    Plus you got Vegeta daughter and and Pan

  • Hider Xera

    vignette4.wikia.nocookie.Net/dragonball/images/3/3b/Nakatsuru-large.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110801125718

  • Hider Xera

    Here is your early Bardock design

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Those legs are so thick.

  • Hider Xera

    On planet Vegeta it was leg day everyday

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    This is done by Katsuyshi Nakatsuru not Toriyama is anyone is wondering.The final Bardock design was done by Toriyama and was his correction of this one.

  • Nvm

  • Hider Xera

    He corrected Tomah’s hair cause he looks like an anorexic Vegeta

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Again, lemme know when she gets put in the anime or main manga. Spinoffs that don’t effect the main show don’t mean jack.

    Those are half saiyans, they don’t count either.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    His hair disgusts me.

  • uhMayzedHD

    It doesn’t need to effect the main story but saying she is the first is wrong because those characters already existed before Super came into existance

    There still Saiyans regardless if there half.

  • Hider Xera

    It’s like half of Goku’s hair

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It does need to effect the main story to be important though. If they wanted Goku’s mom to be of importance, they should’ve included it in the main story.

    Saiyan/Human hybrids are different from Saiyans.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Nakatsuru’s design sense was still on-point regardless. All five of them look like characters Toriyama could’ve designed and drawn himself.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    With 10 times the gravity, yeah kinda.

  • Ewww he looks nasty

  • Hider Xera

    Well they were born under those conditions so it shouldn’t have really affected them too much

  • uhMayzedHD

    There still considered Saiyans because gentics.
    It’s just a background story she is canon regardless you think otherwise.

    I’m no longer having this conversation about this.

  • But not the same way as Toriyama. Remember Toriyama had to work on a weekly basis when creating his manga. Toyotaro on the other hand didn’t. You really need to do your research better because even without looking it up I thought this was obvious.

  • Oh and also if you watch the special on how manga artist works then you’d know that Toriyama worked more hours combine in one week than Toyotaro worked monthly.

  • Hider Xera

    You calling Toyotaro a slacker?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It still doesn’t matter because in more time with comparable experience he still produces an inferior product. Toyotaro also produces his manga digitally whereas Toriyama did not, and it still manages to be worse.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Um the first image is the first ssf

  • No I am calling him a man who only releases his manga once a month.

  • Yes it does matter. Toriyama worked with all the problems that come from being a weekly manga creator. He improved because from chapter 1 to the final chapter of DB he barely took breaks. Toyotaro on the other hand has that luxury.

    It’s basically like comparing an Active Army Soldier to a National Guard Army Soldier.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    She looks like a down grade version of cappa in which he was a copy version of Vegeta

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Eh I don’t see that in this pic

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toyotaro has the luxury of more time and easier ways of producing his manga and it still ends up significantly worse than the original material he’s trying to emulate.

  • You once defended Boruto manga even when people said the art was sh!t. Yet here you are expecting Toyotaro to draw EXACTLY like Toriyama.

    You hypocrite. BLOCK UNTIL SATURDAY!!

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I like this one more. She seems to have a personality beyond “shy” and her outfit implies she’s really carefree and casual. Light upper wear, pluming pants, no makeup or jewelry, and her hair is unkempt and flowing free.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I never said the art wasn’t bad for the beginning of Boruto. I liked it, but it still remained that it was decently flawed and I always conceded that. My thing was always saying Ikemoto was going to improve, which he most definitely has since the manga has started. Toyotaro’s artwork, if anything, has gotten worse since he’s been doing official work.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    New personal record. Liger blocked me and I wasn’t even trying to make it happen.

  • It seems hypocrites are hypocrites no matter how hard one tries to not be.

    Anyway take care all. I was only on here to let you know that the gab site is accepting new users. Gab is like twitter without the censorship. Google it if you want to find out more.

    Good night.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Recap: Liger blocked me because I explained why Toyotaro isn’t that great of an artist.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He’s really quick to hit that block button. And it’s weird that he only uses it for opinions that differ from his.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s ironic that he advertises a website without censorship not even a minute after he blocks me for a dissenting opinion.

  • Hider Xera

    Apparently manga Vegito might be stronger than Beerus. So much for Toriyama has no plans for anyone to pass Beerus and Whis.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m surprised they haven’t tried turning the Dragon Ball Heroes manga into an anime or at least an OVA yet. I like it more than Super’s manga because it looks like Toyotaro’s actually adding more of his own style to it and it looks all that much better for it.

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    I really like Basaku’s expression in the bottom left.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Seriously, this is way better than what he puts out for the Super manga. What’s wrong with him?

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  • The Barnacle’s Whim

    TBH, I have no idea. I just swear I remember seeing your name on YouTube somewhere. Don’t know which comments for which video though. :/

  • This looks awesome.

  • Ryumancer

    Indeed. They need a contest where fans can send in some character concepts and the winner gets added to the work.

    Sure, it’ll make a RIDICULOUS frenzy. But it’ll also be a humongous marketing opportunity.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Right? Good composition, excellent linework, great expressions, it’s a fantastic two-page spread.

  • Ryumancer

    By concept that block list of his must be in the hundreds. lol

    I only block a few assholes like Saiyan Soul and Rodrigo Montrier.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Have you ever looked at fan designs? I have yet to see one that didn’t look completely like ass personally.

  • Ryumancer

    lol, because the average every-man can’t draw for crap.

    Myself included unfortunately. v_v ;_;

  • They’re usually too limited to what’s already been done.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s not even drawing. You don’t have to be good at drawing to do good designs.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s my biggest issue with them. They’re usually super derivative and unoriginal, or overdesigned and terrible.

  • Ryumancer

    Yeah but drawing helps your concept get noticed. I can make up a character that makes sense in the Dragonball mythos easily. It’s bringing him/her to life in a picture that always stops me.

  • Drack is the best character in Mass Effect Andromeda.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Just try drawing them at all. One Punch Man’s original manga had awful art but was still enjoyed.

  • Ryumancer

    Because it was a parody and therefore wasn’t taken seriously in the first place.

    Dragonball may be light and humorous as well, but it still has plenty of serious parts.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hey, just saying, Dragon Ball was a parody at first as well.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Her appearance implies she is another Cappa aka down grade of Vegeta

  • Yomi

    The characters feel too familiar.

  • Hider Xera

    Well I mean that’s 17 and Kid Piccolo and Goten and Pan and Frost

  • I’m not a fan of heroes, but if it would become an anime sign me up.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If we’re taking everything we’ve seen of her into account, it’s that when she’s not at a formal occasion, she presents herself plainly and casually. She isn’t wearing makeup in this art (which also she’s not wearing makeup in the other art Toriyama did of her in-between SSJ and LSSJ form, so that’s making me think the lipstick is all Yamamuro). When she’s invited to the tournament, she wears more formal clothing, jewelry, and ties up her hair, as well as having a bashful demeanor, implying at occasions she’s more nervous than casual encounters.

    What we’ve seen of Cabba is that he’s basically Tarble but has a spine.

  • Hider Xera

    Let’s have a discussion. Does anyone else hate how the Super Manga nerfs all of the villians and makes the heroes super broken?

  • I don’t read the manga.

  • Hider Xera

    Why?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I think if his Namekian design was more diversified like the Xenoverse/DBO Namekians it’d look better, but other than that I disagree.

  • I watch the anime.

  • Hider Xera

    I read it to see the differences

  • I’m Lazy!

  • That’s why I watch geekdom101 he reviews

  • Hider Xera

    Meh you aren’t missing much. It’s pretty much the same just that Super Saiyan God is still around and the fights don’t really have that much hype because the villians are always super weak.

  • Ryumancer

    Very true. But it evolved into something epic.

  • Why did Liger the amazing Ahtma?

  • Hider Xera

    You mean why did he block him?

  • Yea

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I pointed out that Toyotaro in a month can’t produce what Toriyama could in a week and he got mad.

  • Why Liger like it? If the villains get nerfed

  • Hider Xera

    Because Ahtma challenged him by calling his God Toyotaro not so great an artist. That offended Liger so he blocked Ahtma until Saturday.

  • Yomi

    The manga has no drama for me for some reason, just bullet points and exposition.
    Then fans are like “wow, these bullet points make 2% more sense, doesn’t matter that drama and storytelling was sacrificed”

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I bet money it’s because Toyotaro draws the Heroes manga too and as we all know Liger’s wet dreams involves Heroes.

  • It’s true b/c Toriyama made Dragon Ball Super

  • Hider Xera

    Because Toyotaro is his secret lover in his fantasies

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m also not a fan of Toyotaro’s artwork most of the time. It doesn’t bring much to the plate other than sometimes looking kind of like Toriyama’s.

  • True

  • Hider Xera

    The drama is gone for me because the enemies aren’t actual threats and are all getting molly whopped by Vegeta. And some of the explanations fall short sometimes too. The recent chapter showed Goku blasting a hole through Merged Zamasu’s chest which would’ve killed him if he weren’t immortal which they ofcourse ate up even though they attacked the anime for having a scene where Goku pushed back Zamasu’s blast by using so much power he broke his arms.

  • Yomi

    Toyataro is perfect in every way and Toriyama is the scum of the earth. These are the facts of Liger’s reality.

  • Hider Xera

    I can’t wait for Merged Zamasu to appear on Global Dokkan. The best part is he won’t be nerfed.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I mean, he’s said before if they introduce a SSJ Rainbow form he’ll wish death on Toriyama for it.

  • ( ̄∀ ̄)

  • Get vegito blue

  • Yomi

    well, it’s a fictional character, so of course he has to die for it.

  • Hider Xera

    I’m trying. I think I used up all my luck when I pulled Super Saiyan Rose yesterday.

  • Yomi

    I got blackuu

  • Yomi

    Rose’ awakened him this morning.

  • I need rose now

  • Hider Xera

    I pulled Super Saiyan Rose yesterday. I was so happy I thought it was my birthday again

  • Hider Xera

    They should make a way to trade characters

  • This isn’t Pokémon.

  • Hider Xera

    It might as well be. Except now the Pokémon are harder to catch

  • I feel like making Xv2 online videos whooping ASS!

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They won’t. It’s more money in their pocket if you can only get what you get and that’s it.

  • Yes

  • Hider Xera

    Paying for stones is also a scam because there is no guarantee you’ll get what you want

  • uhMayzedHD

    Lol I can see that

  • Hider Xera

    Some people are impatient

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Saw the new ep of Boruto and I have to say it was pretty good, light hearted and funny. Which is a lot for me to say for this compare to how I saw DBS. And I like how metal is kinda taking the role of the most skilled student, in part one it was Sasuke, granted Sahara and Boruto are still up there but this is a good change for the Lee clan. As for Boruto eye it’s still the byakugan not the Tensigan

  • Become Patient My Son!

  • Hider Xera

    Too much work

  • Yesh

  • Hider Xera

    Well we would’ve gotten some what of an explanation for what it was if Naruto hadn’t come home. Stupid generic anime trope where a character arrives right when we’re about to get some exposition.

  • Hider Xera

    Nosh

  • Anthony_weaver86

    For you not for me

  • Give it another chance i have a feeling you only hate because others hate it.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I don’t hate it I just don’t like it and don’t see how it’s good, it’s like watching an anime you can’t get into

  • If you don’t like something it means you hate it.

  • Hider Xera

    Just like how One Piece is for me.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Where did you get that from? Are you okay?

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Thank you

  • Jk

  • Hider Xera

    Now hold on a second partner. Hate is a very strong word. He doesn’t like it meaning he doesn’t want it to disappear and doesn’t utterly despise everything about it.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Hmmhmm

  • Di

    it is a tenseigan with black instead of white part

  • One Piece is too long

  • Hider Xera

    You’re welcome

  • Anthony_weaver86

    One piece isn’t a bad show it’s just not for us

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I think he is just trolling

  • uhMayzedHD

    Lol that’s the joke of the day! DBS is like 4 outta 10 anime. Just imagine you actually watch a good anime you probably think that’s the best thing since slice bread.

    To be honest DBS and DBGT would have been cancel between 1-10 episode if they took out the “Dragon Ball” title outta it.

  • Hider Xera

    It’s not that it’s long it’s just that I don’t like the art style and I just can’t get behind the story. I’ve seen up to that Crocodile guy and I honestly was bored the whole time. I even gave it two more tries and it just wasn’t my cup of tea.

  • I want to watch it, but in the same time I don’t want to watch it.

  • Hider Xera

    Well whatever I guess

  • uhMayzedHD

    Same here with me and Jojo

  • Hider Xera

    I can’t see whatever you commented lel

  • It’s my opinion so chill out

  • Hider Xera

    Ew Jojo

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Trick the door

  • Hider Xera

    lol slice bread now that was actually funny

  • Hider Xera

    Explain this saying please.

  • uhMayzedHD

    I tried to get into but the art style I couldn’t stand it.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    It means get out lol

  • When you like or hate something it’s an opinion not a fact. I can’t stand the mentality of people that their opinion fact it’s just plan stupid

  • No need to chill

  • uhMayzedHD

    I’m not attacking you for your opinion I’m just saying

  • Hider Xera

    Oh. Lol art is really one of the deciding factors when I decide if i’m going to watch the anime and Jojo for me just doesn’t work. let’s just say it’s too fabulous.

  • Hider Xera

    Same.

  • Hider Xera

    Not for me. Jojo is like a discount Fist of the North Star.

  • I used to think the same, but people told me to watch it and now it’s one of my all time favorite anime

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Don’t be that guy. He was talking about Boruto.

  • K.

  • Hider Xera

    It becomes a problem when they contradict themselves on their reasoning for not liking said thing. Example from what I saw earlier after looking at peoples reactions to the new Super Manga chapter. The Manga fans were saying stuff like “This is so much better than the anime. Merged Zamasu stomped on Goku and Vegeta they couldn’t touch him.” completely ignoring a page where Goku blew a hole through Merged Zamasu’s chest which would’ve ended him if not for his immortality. They contradict themselves for praising the manga for the same thing they bashed the anime for.

  • Hider Xera

    I’m sorry Smash I can’t.

  • If the exact same thing happened in the anime people would hate it.

  • If that’s what makes you happy go ahead.

  • Hider Xera

    They have to defend their side even if they know it’s wrong. Some of them already turned on Toyotaro after he left the time limit for Vegito in the story though which in my opinion is a very small thing to be concerned about when the manga has bigger issues that they ignore due to their bias. In Toyotaro’s quest for power scaling he has reduced all of the enemies strengths while boosting Goku and Vegeta’s creating a lack of threat or sense of danger. Black was nothing to Vegeta and while he made have had an upper hand after obtaining rose he was instantly shut down again after Vegeta trained a little. Zamasu was also portrayed terribly compared to his anime counterpart honestly, but that’s just perspective.

  • Hider Xera

    Aye. Aye.

  • This is the Dragon Ball community we’re talking about of course they would be bias.

  • Hider Xera

    Everyone has bias when it comes to certain subjects. I like the anime more so I’m biased, but I do like some of the things the manga does. It just has some problems that irk me.

  • At least you like both some people will attack you for liking the anime.

  • Hider Xera

    And I’ll ignore them or if I have time keep replying until they tire out and leave.

  • Smart decision

  • I’m out peace ✌️

  • Hider Xera

    You should do the same.

  • Hider Xera

    Beh

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Zamasu had a lot of development in the anime. The scene where he’s hugging Black was fantastic. It was such a great scene that showed his true level of narcissism, that the only one who could understand his worldview was himself. To my knowledge there’s no such scene in the manga.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toriko was trash and still ran for 147 episodes before it got cancelled. Meanwhile Toei only ever did one season of Yugioh (which tbh is the best season aside from the dated animation).

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    >too fabulous

    Pansy.

    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/24955

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s not discount Fist of the North Star, it’s more like comparing Coke and Pepsi. If it was discount FotNS it’d be Toriko or Sakigake!! Otokojuku.

  • Hider Xera

    Nope. Just showed Black stabbing Gowasu and it wasn’t even a full panel. Completely skipped over that moment.

  • Hider Xera

    Yeah. That was pretty fabulous.

  • Hider Xera

    I’m not ashamed

  • Kaiber

    I hate people who make up their own bs logic and use it as facts. Like when people say Zamasu turned into the purple Hulk because the Black side of him died, but the Immortal Zamasu still lived like wtf? How does that make sense to anyone? People got some wacky ass theories.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    You should be lol

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Godzilla (2014) vs Shin Godzilla, not In terms of power but the movie, plot, graphics, music, looks, and ect.

    I say Godzilla 2014

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Ikr I hate that

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Yes she was formal and shy in that scene with her going ssj to less, but there was another scene where she looks mean and serious. The early appearance shown that she could have had multiple persona, one shy, one serious, and the last straight up crazy. That’s more interesting to see than a casual free spirit which we already have (goku) though that’s what I saw from the trailer.

    As for Cappa yes he was a spin off of Vegeta’s brother (who most likely was never shown or heard of in super) but he was also a Vegeta double. Base on his gameplay he basicly has Vegeta’s moves, showing he has nothing really going for him as a character, he is just there to be the other version of another character which is boring. Just like how this new look for her, but that’s in my opinion

  • uhMayzedHD

    I heard about Toriko but never watch the anime don’t know the reason why I don’t know the reason why it got cancel.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Bad ratings.

  • Alexander Cabot

    Golden frieza wasn’t a threat and neither was Hit ( in the tournament) regardless of any
    medium. Black and Zamasu were a threat because the anime dragged out the
    fights , which made it entertaining and the power scaling was inconsistent but we enjoyed it. I feel like the manga version of Black arc is boring because it’s lacking SSJ Rage trunks but atleast the power scaling in the manga is better than the Anime and Vegito made Zamasu his b1tch.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It lacks Zamasu’s development. The small nuances to his character, followed by the eventual descent into worshiping his own ideals.

  • It’s plain creepy, his narcissistic tendencies.

  • None of them were nerfed except for immortal Zamasu which isn’t anything new considering he’s not even on Trunks’ level.
    And how are they super broken? SSB drains their stamina, SSG is weaker but lets them conserve their energy.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Well, the immortal Zamasu is immortal… unlike Black.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    The amount of criticism Toyotaro is getting makes very happy.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    twitter.Com/AnimeAjay/status/823977201003626496

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Holy good god that last one.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    The worst part is that he hasn’t improved all that much since then.

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  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They should get Young Jijii to draw this stuff instead.

    i.gyazo.Com/f4ed1cacd6dcf00d74c978ced0790b7f.png

    Definitely nails the style better

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten hired by Shueisha yet.Since they hired the artist of the Yamcha spin-off fairly recently.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I think after the Yamcha manga they might? They’ve been looking at a lot of fan talent lately.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Plus the anime handled Merged Zamasu seemingly going insane perfectly.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    That’s the point.He’s supposed to be creepy and narcissistic.

  • Not saying it was bad.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    You can say it was bad if you didn’t like the way it was handled.Just don’t be like some fans who complain about the personality of a character as if they are the ones who wrote their dialogue.

  • I wasn’t complaining either.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I didn’t say you were.

  • Asuma (Scouter)

    So a boneable Broly. I’m sure the Rule34 community is already cranking art out by the truckload

  • ƓơӃυ | 亀

    I hope this comes to Seattle, I’d see it a few times

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    WTF is this!!!

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    “Toyotaro doesn’t understand necks compilation #1”

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I agree.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yup!

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toei didn’t accept to make an anime for it I think ..

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    This is amazing!!!

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yup.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They affect the main show popo…

  • Hider Xera

    And he didn’t give Black that really thick outline around his eye like a fcking raccoon.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Was this also done by him?

    gyazo.Com/12c5141eefb0b3181251c708048070bd.png

  • Hider Xera

    Ew. What even. That posture for Goku wtf. He’s in that charging chimpanzee stance.

  • Hider Xera

    Why tf didn’t they hire this guy to draw the Super manga? He somehow made Ssj4 look 10x better. Better than Toyotaro’s giraffe neck style.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Yeah it’s pretty bad.

    gyazo.Com/ef432b35ca8b7596fe3977ac0a85d0d0.png

  • Hider Xera

    Why did Toriyama let him anywhere near the manga? Those necks are so noticeable.

  • The good thing about the recent manga chapter is that Vegito was shown to be stronger than Beerus(as stated by the Supreme Kai).

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    And the bad thing was Vegito’s neck.

  • Toriyama has no problems with it since he does review the chapter. Take that into consideration okay?

  • The only bad thing is that now it seems that the fusion time limit is Toriyama’s idea. It really devalues the speech Goku gave Vegeta during the Buu saga before they became Vegito.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    That doesn’t change the fact that the neck is badly drawn.

  • I don’t have a problem with it since I do not expect Toriyama level details from Toyotaro. This is Toyotaro’s style and I am more interested in the difference in lore the manga brings.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    This isn’t about detail.The neck is just wrong.Necks don’t look like that.It could have been just two lines and if they were positioned right it would still look better.

  • Then how about you redraw all the manga panels for Toyotaro and you have a month to do about 10 chapters. If you can do better than do it and not complain.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I see you ran out of excuses.

  • I do not need excuses to defend against someone who has never done the kind of work Toyotaro and Toriyama has done. If you have time to complain then why don’t you take that time to study manga and see if you can become a professional artist.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Criticizing a work of art doesn’t exactly take much time.Way less than studying manga in fact.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    The best part of the chapter was Vegito cutting Zamasus arms off.

  • Alexander Cabot

    which manga is this ?

  • Alexander Cabot

    Looks similar to the anime version of Cell arc. This guy is good

  • It’s a nice Star Wars reference.

  • Alexander Cabot

    I dont see anything wrong with the second and third.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    You don’t see those necks?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Dragon Ball Super.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I don’t know if it was a Star wars refrence.Zamasu force choking Goku and Vegeta probably was.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Or are you asking about the one in my original comment?That’s DB AF.

  • Alexander Cabot

    Oh , I replied you on the wrong comment xD. Yeah , 17 looks really weird with that neck and SSB Goku too i guess but i dont see anything wrong with the last too.

  • Yomi

    I wish Saiyan Island comments were just reactions to the articles, then its over.
    I’m sure Saiyan Island would be more active and would probably have more articles because of it.
    Instead when sane people come to the articles and they want to discuss they see this:

    GoldLiger(Wild Hero)
    “There’s a time limit on fictional earrings, Toriyama really needs to be killed for this, and it devalues a speech a fictional character made 40 years ago, man; this is the worst thing since 911”

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    You mean the Gohan ones?In the first one his head is too close to his body and his neck is non existent, in the second his neck is way too think.

  • Alexander Cabot

    He sure hell needs to be informed of these complains and should improve or they better hire new talent ( Young Jiji or the yamcha manga guy)

  • Alexander Cabot

    Yep i was asking about the Gohan one’s. God xD ! his 17 looks so terrible with that neck , atleast he improved a lit bit in the DBS manga.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Oh yeah I forgot how big a presence Goku’s mom had last arc.

  • Thought it was obvious by this point but then again with how much AT loves Beerus, he probably would’ve come out and said otherwise if asked.

  • Sideways

    Filler character, no, broly is a movie character, a merchandising sensation, when they want to sell crap they slap broly’s roided out self on it

  • Sideways

    It was anakin did it to duku
    Talk about coming out of it empty handed

  • That’s not a good idea. AT doesn’t want them to Surpass Beerus.

  • Sideways

    Honestly i think supreme kai is wrong
    As his universe is literally the 2nd lowest on the scale

    He sucks at his job, so does beerus

  • True

  • Sideways

    Honestly thats just sad and whats worse is that he didn’t even know about the omni king
    He had no idea he had a boss

  • True, he was on the cover of raging blast, was the only movie character in Burst Limit, was the only movie character in Xenoverse 1 as well.

    Guy is sure popular, wonder how his genderbent self will affect merchandise sales etc etc

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Yeah Bandai Namco seems to have some kind of Broly fetish.

  • Cause he’s probably their best seller? they even made a new figure for him a couple of months ago, pretty expensive one, it was showcased at comic conventions in the US as well.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Doubt hes their best seller.He probably sells well but i don’t see him being a best seller.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    How is that a good thing?

  • You know if you keep lying then I will report you to Dawn.

  • Cause Supreme Kai made himself useful for once and acted as a scouter, duh!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    For starters, you’ve lied plenty of times. Secondly, where does it say that lying is against the rules?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That still won’t change that there are only 28 planets with mortal life in his universe.

  • The anime is not really good at where Beerus’ power is at. It was implied in the anime that if Goku and Vegeta worked together than they could possibly beat Beerus. Vegito SSB can beat Beerus. And since the script for the chapter was reviewed by the creator himself then he agrees.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    “It was implied in the anime that if Goku and Vegeta worked together than they could possibly beat Beerus”

    That was only implied in the movie.Wasn’t even mentioned in the anime.

  • Making false violent remarks IS.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What did Supreme Kai say exactly

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You’ve definitely said that you wished that Toriyama had died before.

    Also show me the rule.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    You did wish death upon Toriyama once.It wasn’t because of the time limit though, if i remember correctly you were just pissed because people were telling you to stop watching Super if you hate it so much.

  • I find this most unfair, the blame lies on Beerus as well!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah but Beerus is cool. Shin is a loser.

  • And I was temporarily ban for it so that should tell you something.

  • Vegito might be more powerful than Beerus

    something like that.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You were temporarily banned for the constant Trump stuff. Not that. Unless you’ve been banned more than once, if so, Lol.

  • And the movie was approved by Toriyama himself. Remember the RoF arc is entirely Toei’s re imagining which is why most of us agree it sucked.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I mean, I guess it makes sense. But they wouldn’t be able to beat him in the 5-10 minutes they have as a fusion. So it doesn’t really matter.

  • Dude you were not here when I was temporarily banned for violent remarks. Have you not read the laws of this site. You also have to remember that this is a public site not a private one for adults.

  • Yomi

    You were talking about how you wanted to assist gay suicide.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    The RoF movie wasn’t exactly much better…

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    The RoF arc is the replacement of the movie.

    Both versions sucked.In fact i’d say the movie sucked more.But that doesn’t change the fact that the anime is currently the main version and retconed the movie.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah that smells like bull.

    And again, show me the rules.

  • Yeah but that was Toriyama’s 100% approval canon movie. To the point that the MANGA told us to watch it.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Why do they let him back in??

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    And? Doesn’t make it good.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    The manga also tells us to watch Super.Since you know, it’s was created to promote it.

  • Yeah but it is the canon reference.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I don’t think he even lasted 10 minutes in the manga.He stabbed Zamasu a couple of times and once he used the kamehameha he defused.

  • He’s not lying.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Pretty sure that’s the show now.

  • Yeah but that is outside the chapter. Not within the story chapter itself.

  • Yomi

    I haven’t made violent remarks, I’m stating that you’ve made violent remarks, which you admit to making.
    How is that ban worthy?

  • No you made FALSE remarks of something I never stated. I already sent your comment to Dawn.

  • I hope they make the female Broly have a god transformation

  • If you read my original post then yes YOMI is lying.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Oh no, and now he’ll get banned. If only there was a way to get around it.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Still waiting on those rules btw

  • It’s not good it’s bs.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    What exactly was the false remark?You have done everything Yomi has said.

  • Yomi

    Calm down Sean Spicer. I am not fake news.

  • Right with all the BS power ups everyone is getting why not have the first female SS have a god transformation.

  • I don’t have time for that Liger you know it right?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    How is that a BS power up?You literally know nothing about her.

  • YOMI modified a post that is found below like it is 10 hours old.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Clearly the u6 Saiyans used the u6 dragon balls to find out about SSG after the tournament, and then Cabba and Braly did the ritual.

  • Actually because of the manga existing, you can pinpoint what is canon and which isn’t cause certain plot points coincide in both the anime and the manga, the show has canon aspects as does the manga.

  • Think about it if she is from Universe 6 how would you explain her having a God transformation when Vados doesn’t know about it? That is what we call BS power up.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Which didn’t know about SSG either.

  • Clearly the saiyans from u6 do not even know about namek so they would not even know about Dragon Balls.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Who said that?

  • It’s not bs Liger. It makes sense Broly isn’t canon so why not make BROLINA form a god form

  • *evolution

  • SSG backstory was BS anyway.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Go away nerd.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    How does that in any way help your argument?

  • Did you see a Namek among the U6 fighters? Exactly.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Maybe namekians are weak?

  • :O I can’t believe youuu

  • Ok

  • How many times are you going to say something is bullshit when you don’t have an excuse to back it up?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s pretty shitty logic. I guess u7 has no other alien life since the only people on that team were from Earth and Monaka.

    Namekians obviously aren’t the strongest in the universe

  • Dude did you forget the line “No matter how much you train by yourself, you would have never been able to reach the realm of the Gods”. That line was used for a reason.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Tell that to 17.

  • It does when the back story for a Super SAIYAN God is within an Ancient NAMEKIAN book. That is the BS.

  • Dude she might have special powers.

  • Well it does have 28 mortal species.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    How exactly does it help?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Both universes have saiyans and earthlings.Why wouldn’t U6 have namekians?

  • *Frieza

    17’s gonna be reduced to fodder again so eh, give Freiza sama the credit

  • ….She is a saiyan. There is nothing in the scan that even gives hint to that.

  • Alexander Cabot

    Either that’s bad writing or just fan service.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Well, Frieza did cover a bigger gap then 17 way faster so i guess.

  • ….You try to debunk a possible BS power up with another BS power up?

  • Filler.

  • You lack imagination.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Or 17 is a prodigy like Frieza ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • You lack common sense.

  • Frieza was a prodigy because he was a mutant in his own SPECIES.

    Android 17 was a punk you got luckily enough to be enhanced with robot parts.

  • That’s BS.

  • I have a feeling she’s the princess of the saiyans. She might even be feared for her power.

  • wait wai wait, ancient namekian book?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I’m not enhanced by robotic parts.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    They said that SSG was mentioned in some Namekian book in the BoG saga.

  • Seriously??

  • Alexander Cabot

    Well they need to come up with some BS. In GT , Dr Gero stated that 17 was intended to have potential higher than cell.

  • Even if it did do you really think the saiyans of u6 would forceably ask for a selfish wish from the Namekian elders?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    I mean, there must have been something special about him to be capture by Gero.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Yes?

  • We are not talking about you and nice counter argument.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Yeah.Everybody was going crazy thinking that Piccolo was going to get some power up from the book and then Toei just forgot about it.

  • He was an orphan no one would miss. That is what Toriyama said.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Link?

  • Truth is sometimes BS as well but it is the truth

  • Alexander Cabot

    What can be so special about an avearge human. Special humans like Krillen and Tien were actually more worth

  • I feel bad for Piccolo though, he was on par with 17 and didn’t give up his training either and he got made a fool off in the Frost fight

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    gyazo.Com/8a7fcfdff4e3cd972c2cb69c4379bbca.png

  • Right……yet she wasn’t chosen to represent the saiyans in the tournament. Think about that.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    How do we know 17 wasn’t a special human?

  • Buy Zelda.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    What?

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Also 17 is technically a mutant since hes been modified at a cellular level.

  • Alexander Cabot

    We dont. There was nothing forshadowed about him in the series.

  • Injustice 2 – Shattered Alliances Part 5 trailer

    http://www.youtube.Com/watch?v=7pojxDkgHu0

  • She wasn’t thought of at the time.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Except for the fact that he somehow made it to God level in roughly 10 years.

  • Superman scared of Braniac? hue, someone should smack the guy who wrote that.

  • They better reveal female Broly name soon it doesn’t feel right calling her female Broly.

  • Really? The only thing I took out of it was that Superman knows that no one else would be able to handle Brainiac but him.

  • I bet it would be another pun that Broly’s name originated from.

  • Batman’s good at reading people, emotions, characteristics, mannerisms etc etc, if someone is afraid, he knows.

  • Cauli

  • Yet he can’t read the Joker. That is the point while he is good and reading weak willed individuals. But Superman isn’t some weak willed person to begin with.

  • Alexander Cabot

    By logic SSJ2 Trunks is also God level because traded blows with SSR Black and Survived a kamea wave which took down SSB Goku with him and this was before he achieved SS Rage. Everyone in this damn show is god level if the plot demands it.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Joker isn’t exactly easy to read.

  • That is a good one. Too bad the writers won’t use it.

  • You never know anything is possible in the world of Dragon Ball.

  • Liger’s baby boy Toyotaro

    Which is BS because we’ve seen Trunks train in the past and not get anywhere near current God level.

    but we’ve never seen 17 train.

  • Neither is Superman. That is the point. What Superman said was that unless he is fighting with them they will all lose. He knows Brainiac well enough to know that fact.

  • Joker? he’s chaos incarnate, I’d argue that his will is as strong if not stronger than Batman’s considering they’re polar opposites.

    Superman is weak willed though, that was one of the whole major plots point of Injustice 1, when faced with the same tragedy Batman faces, Superman breaks.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Glad they went with Braniac and not Darkseid. Darkseid should be saved for Injustice 3

  • Welp I need to visit hot topic whenever I have the time.

  • Hider Xera

    He’s a pre-order bonus

  • Rhafty

    I’m not even crazy about fighting games ( that isn’t dbz related ) and I’m getting hyped for no reason lol.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They have Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Flash and Doctor Fate on their side. They don’t really need Superman to win.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m talking about as the main story villain.

  • Hider Xera

    True. What if they used Parallax or the Anti-Monitor?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If they didn’t use Darkseid next time I’d prefer Mongul and the War World. Parallax could probably work too. Anti-Monitor would have to involve other universes again, cause he’s definitely to big a threat for one Earth.

  • Alexander Cabot

    Yes, We have never seen him train but lets wait and see how it goes. If Goku goes SSB against Tien or ” Ultimate Gohan ” then i’m done with this series. I sure hell will eat these glasses.

  • Talha you don’t wear glasses, just ignore the eps till they hit the tournament, I’m doing just that.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Why eat the glasses?

  • Alexander Cabot

    Because we’ll see Tien and Ultimate Gohan keep up with SSB and in a moment of rage i’ll eat them.

  • Alexander Cabot

    Ok

  • A objectively bad drawing

    It’s probably going to be painful.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Liger how do you feel about Wonder Woman being a feminist icon?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Well feminist icon to some. She was made an honorary ambassador to the UN for women, and then some SJWs signed a petition and forced them to remove her.

  • WW is the best icon for feminists because the ones they have now are unhealthy land whales.

  • Whatcha think of Marvel’s sales dropping cause of all the SJW pandering though?

  • PC in comics are bad for sales. Glad DC ditched that idea entirely with the new Rebirth series. Love that they brought back pre 52 Superman and Lois Lane along with Jonathan Kent.

  • Wait you actually keep up with the comics?

  • Well yeah. Not so much with Marvel since they started that “PC and Diversity” BS.

    I also hate the whole “Diversity is our nations strength”. The leaders of the US government back then forgot that it wasn’t diversity that was the strength of the UNITED States of America. Well you can already tell what is the true strength of America already by my words.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’ve heard Marvel is moving towards a Rebirth type event by bringing back their own legacy characters.

  • Spidey’s probably the only one not affected by PC or the diversity thing, well there is Miles though but he’s actually a pretty wonderful addition and doesn’t feel forced or anything.

  • True he is one of the ones that made top 50 in comic book sales last year right?

  • No idea, I don’t keep up with the sales, just a glance every now and then but his story arcs are pretty nice.

  • So long as the writers of said Rebirth do not put ANY PC sh!t in it then they will at least become equals to DC again in comic book sales.

  • I know I have seen him. Him being an half african half puertorrican was a nice touch. But hey the stories are nice and it didn’t feel shoe horned in.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Well they’re not gonna just get rid of their new characters. They’ll probably just improve the writing and slowly bring back the old guys, like Bruce, Tony and the Fantastic Four.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Did you hear about what happened in the recent X-Men comic? X-Men Gold?

  • You mean that thing with India that the person was laid off for it?

  • I wonder how they are going to bring back Bruce from the dead. That whole thing with killing him was stupid.

  • Think he’s talking about how Wolverine was brought back, well the ultimate universe’s wolverine not the main universe’s one.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Indonesian and he got fired. But yeah, the whole anti-Christian thing.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Oh yeah, James Holland or something like that. That seems cool.

  • I hate the fact that they made X-23 to have the name Wolverine. X-23 is a well known hero name that people loved.

  • Wth with all this controversy, I just wanna read good stories man, not this anti nonsense.

    do something Popo

  • It was sorta passing the mantle thing that they did, but yeah X-23’s too iconic to take up Logan’s mantle.

  • Exactly. She was her own unique character.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “Well known”

    Ehhh let’s not go that far. And she’s basically his daughter, it’s a legacy thing. I’d rather her be Wolverine than Riri Williams be Iron Man (technically she’s Iron heart)

  • Wth’s an iron heart?!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Your guess is as good as mine. Probably time travel. Or some cosmic being

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    So Tony is comatose now, and Dr. Doom is Iron Man, and this 15 year old girl named Riri took over the Invincible Iron Man series. She’s Iron Heart. Tony is her A.I.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m still working on it. I’ll fix it soon don’t worry.

  • …………………………..

    Doom is Iron man? ha…ha…hahahahaha, I love it! couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, kill Tony off marvel, you won’t lost a thing.

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    Hiya guys.

  • *lose

    damnit, gengen’s mistakes are coming to me now.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hiya

  • Yo

  • Sup

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m still trying to figure out why Gwenpool is a thing.

  • Cause Deadpool was losing his luster?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Liger do you watch the Phillip DeFranco show? I feel like you do

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    Say what?

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    I remember you.

  • I do not have access to that show here since I barely have time.

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    I remember you too, but from my understanding there’s many ligers

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    So there’s this comic called Gwenpool. She’s not Gwen Stacy. She’s Gwen Poole. She’s from our universe and goes into the Marvel Universe and does some shitt.

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    You’re a nostalgic account as well

  • I’d be terribly broken hearted if you didn’t. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    <3

  • I am the original Liger on here. Look at my comment count.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Hi.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Oh wow. Well I watch it. You’d like it, he’s like you, but less extreme in every single way. He talks about news and stuff.

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    Are you a new member, my friend?

  • Seems my launch break is almost up so guys I will chat later once I get home.

  • I will. Got to go. Work as always.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    His latest two videos were about this family that did youtube pranks on each other. Except hey we’re pretty shitty people.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Have fun. o/

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    Pandering to feminists is something that needs to be stopped

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Iv’e been here for about a year.We’ve talked to each other before.I don’t blame you for not remembering me.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Bye o/

  • A objectively bad drawing

    >Videos are scripted

    >Child was headbutted into bookshelf and bleeding on his bed

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I don’t think it’s a feminist thing. But it is stupid

  • Later o/

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    If we’ve talked I’m sure I’d have memory of ya, who were you before?

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Linger.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Take care.

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    Peace

  • Goku’s Brother From Dif Mother

    Hey, you were one of my favorites.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Awe.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yup, and now they took all their videos down. Hopefully the kids get normal lives now.

  • It’s weird that you’d come here for your launch break.
    What’s also weird is that 6oure taking a launch break.

  • A objectively bad drawing

    Yeah, their father was pretty horrible.Made his son slap his own daughter and everything.

    The way he pushed his own son was inexcusable though.I can’t believe he tried to justify that.He didn’t even edit it out of the video.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I remember reading about a comic guy’s problem with her concept and he noted that Tony shouldn’t have praised Riri for reusing his old parts, he should’ve sued her. I thought that was funny.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Godzilla 2014 or Shin Godzilla?

  • Quest(lost, hungry magician)

    Oh I thought you were new…..welp

  • Matthew Broderick.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Are you referring to the 2000 zilla?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It didn’t but it is canon I mean…..

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Alright Liger, if you could write Super better than Toriyama like you constantly seem to imply you can you better do it and not complain.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m not sure.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He stopped training actually.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Might get DCU online again.Shall we play together?

  • Okay what’s this I hear about a Kazekage clan? What BS is the fandom bringing out of nowhere. Especially after the fact that Gaara(in Gaara Hiden) was tasked AND HE ACCEPTED THE TASK of continuing his bloodline to prevent Shikadai from inheriting the Kazekage title(which was mention in the novel with Temari wanted to be with Shikamaru).

    Why the heck does a magnet style clan exist in Sand Village but we never seen them in the original manga or anime?

    Shinki is Gaara’s son not his adopted son. Are people high or something? There was only one shinobi with the Magnet style bloodline shown in both the manga and anime and that was Rasa the 4th Kazekage(and the 3rd Kazekage which became Sasori’s puppet). Where was this Magnet Style clan when all the sh!t of the 4th War happen?

    This is pure BS UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • If you answered me Ahtma then you are still blocked.

    Kazekage clan. What BS. If a Magnet Style clan existed than Sasori would have had over 10 puppets made from them instead of just having one.

  • I was the one who was replying lel not Ahtma, I’m just surprised you’re already onto the Boruto fan theories.

  • It’s not about fan theories this is what was said in the OFFICIAL CANON NOVEL(Gaara Hiden). Gaara was tasked by the elders of the village which he FULLY ACCEPTED and that task was to continue HIS BLOODLINE(since Kankuro didn’t want to do it) to prevent Temari’s future children from inheriting the Kazekage title. The point was that the elders didn’t want Temari’s children(or in this case Shikadai) to obtain the Kazekage title.

    And now out of nowhere they grab some random kid from a clan that was never established in either manga or anime(as we seen that no one bother to do research or even inform of said clan).

    Kazekage clan was basically Gaara’s family because they have the magnet style bloodline. Rasa became Kazekage because of his bloodline. A bloodline that Gaara was tasked in the novel itself.

    Whose ever bright idea to make Shinki, Gaara’s adopted son instead of his biological son needs to have his head exam.

  • Pokémon Sun and Moon English dub theme is good.

  • The english dub is out? I thought the new series didn’t start until May?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He’s got me blocked until Saturday because I had the gall to not slob Toyotaro’s knob but all you have to do is point out that the Suna council pushed Gaara to marry and have a child not solely because they didn’t want Temari’s to be an heir, but specifically because Temari’s child would be a shinobi from Konoha and they found that unacceptable. An adopted kid born in Suna would be fine by that standard.

  • It’s been out.

  • Yeah the Jap dub.

  • A objectively bad animator

    “the Suna council pushed Gaara to marry and have a child not solely because they didn’t want Temari’s to be an heir, but specifically because Temari’s child would be a shinobi from Konoha and they found that unacceptable. An adopted kid born in Suna would be fine by that standard.”

    -Ahtma

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What are you talking about?

  • Ahtma said

    The Suna council pushed Gaara to marry and have a child not solely because they didn’t want Temari’s to be an heir, but specifically because Temari’s child would be a shinobi from Konoha and they found that unacceptable. An adopted kid born in Suna would be fine by that standard.

  • youtube.coM/watch?v=iXTtxG4mLPg&feature

  • A objectively bad animator

    Nice one.Real fast.I’m very impressed.

  • Ahtma didn’t read the novel so he wouldn’t know but Gaara ACCEPTED the task of continuing his bloodline. It says so and we even find out at the end WHO he would continue the bloodline with. Like seriously do people have retard brains today?

  • Stop ✋

  • You know Liger could just unblock Ahtma, I mean it’s not the first time nor the last time they’re going to argue.

    Guess we gotta play messenger till then

  • And like I stated in the novel Gaara already accepted the task of CONTINUING his bloodline. They would not even BOTHER with either Kankuro or Gaara if there was already a clan full of magnet style users.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Nah, I ain’t doin’ it today. I was only around to point that out, if Liger wants to have a proxy conversation he can do it with someone else.

  • A objectively bad animator

    I have no clue what were talking about but the third episode of Boruto was the best one yet.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I hate Class Rep. But everything else was cool.

  • @forgot_how_to_draw:disqus
    #BlameHiroyukiSakurada for all the inconsistencies in Super.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Inconsistencies?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Super is perfect, you’re just a hater.

  • Shut up, you!

  • I hate his guts for do this shat

  • A objectively bad animator

    I know right?! Super is perfect.I don’t know what this Soul guy is talking about.

  • Ahtma was just going to use strawman of the whole “adopted” thing. The problem is that the reason why Gaara was chosen to continue the bloodline was because KANKURO DIDN’T WANT TO. If there had been a clan outside of Gaara’s family that had the bloodline the elders(that would have known all about said clan) would not have bothered with Gaara in the first place.

  • Yes, yes whatever you say.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No wonder Ryumancer blocked him. Soul’s always spouting lies.

  • A objectively bad animator

    @Saiyan_Soul:disqus You continue being Ahtma’s messenger.I can’t be bothered.

  • Wait he blocked me? lel

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No but seriously, where did this come from.

  • wth Linger…….. ;-;

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yup, he told me yesterday. You and some Rodrigo guy.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    A recurring theme is that if his theory has anything to do with family or bloodlines (“secret Senju,” “Sarada is Karin’s daughter,” “Uub is gonna be retconned to be 17’s son,” “Shinki can’t be adopted”) it’s probably terrible.

  • Hahaha, I found out he was using a second account and called him out on it and he blocked me? lel

  • Why?

  • A objectively bad animator

    At least we have Yamamuro who provides us with top class character designs and gives animators absolute freedom.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He was using a second account? Wow who would do that?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Idk

  • A objectively bad animator

    Heh.

  • How dare you despise our hero Yamamuro! atleast he’s not screwing up Super’s story!

  • <<

    That Aang kid must've died huh? oh well.

  • Dude it was in the damn novel. It’s not a theory. It was a plot point. Heck let me give you a comparison. This novel was Gaara’s version of the LAST NARUTO THE MOVIE. If you read it that is what you see happening.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It had Metal Lee in it.And anything related to Rock Lee is automatically better than anything not related to Rock Lee.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah he told me he was deleting his account. He said he’ll be back eventually though. But who knows, I don’t know what goes on in his head, I’m not him.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    W h a t n o v e l.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Gaara hiden. tl;dr how Gaara gets hitched.

  • GAARA HIDEN!!!

  • I don’t care about the Novels.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I always thought Gaara would be gay tbh.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If it was hidden how did you read it??

  • And that is why you believe the BS nonsense of the “adopted son” of Gaara.

  • Uh huh

  • Do you not read? I said HIDEN not HIDDEN. One D not two.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Was that in the novel?

  • A objectively bad animator

    He got you good on this one.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hiden isn’t a word dude. It’s hidden.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Shhh go away.

  • ….It’s japanese dude. If you want just call it “Gaara Novel: The Sand Mirage”.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Looks English to me.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Like the whole thing about him learning about love from his uncle. There definitely was some gay context there

  • Gaara’s tasked was to continue his bloodline. The Kazekage clan was basically HIM, TEMARI and KANKURO.

  • I thought the uncle was a woman when he was first introduced.

  • Does naruto even have gay characters?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ok but where did Shinki being adopted come from?

  • Me too

  • Orochimaru

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah Gaara. And Haku probably.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Naruto and Sasuke were eachother’s first kiss…

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah Naruto.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Naruto and Sasuke are definitely bisexual.

  • Oh yeah!

  • I think some idiot online that probably fake a scan or something that did not bother reading the full novel.

  • I thought haiku was just a trap character.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Traps are gay.

  • You know what stop.

  • True

  • A objectively bad animator

    The end of an era.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Well since you asked nicely.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    See, look, this is crap. This is extremely low effort baiting and he’s not even blocked you, meanwhile I get a three-day time out for trash talking Toyotaro-sama.

  • She’s a hinata clone

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Rip Popo’s trolling
    2013-2017

  • Tsuna Sawada

    It was a good run tho

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Why does this hoe look like she got electrocuted

  • @GoldLiger:disqus Ahtma said that your treatment of him is unfair.

  • A objectively bad animator

    twitter.Com/aaronWgamer/status/854197941862576128

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s all about the skill. You got to start slow and get him riled up, go on for a while and then lay it on thick to get him to block you.

    You just go full on, and while it gets he job done it usually does too much damage and makes him angry enough to block you for days after only one conversation.

    Like when Team 7 was learning how to climb trees. You’re Sasuke, and I’m Kakashi, since I have the best chakra control and I don’t want to be Sakura.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Don’t forget to say super>gt

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    My dude I wasn’t even trying to make him mad. I did it passively. I’m like Six Paths Naruto levels of “what did you do,” “I don’t know.”

  • He also said BoTW is overrated.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Liger you should unblock Ahtma. He doesn’t deserve this treatment.

  • And he apologized saying Toyataro is on par with Toriyama

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Tell him this is proof that he’s an SJW and that Trump wouldn’t block someone who’d disagree with him so neither should he.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah he wan’t even trying to make Liger mad.He had genuine criticism towards Toytaro.

  • He also said you’re secretly a SJW posing as a feminist.

  • A objectively bad animator

    I criticized Toytaro too but didn’t get blocked(not that i’m complaining)

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    The worst part is is that this is hella unfair. I’ve trolled him in circles and he never blocked me for it.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    @GoldLiger:disqus

    Blocking Ahtma “is proof that you’re an SJW and that Trump wouldn’t block someone who’d disagree with him so neither should you.”

  • Trust me Ahtma did worst to me and you know it. He can chill for a couple of days.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What did he do?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m coming out of retirement boys.

  • @GoldLiger:disqus Just unblock @ahtma:disqus

  • Don’t you remember? I was banned because of him.

    He is lucky that all I do is block him.

  • Hey Linger, were you ever blocked by Liger?

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah that was like, prank of the year.

  • Have patience and wait until Saturday.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Dozens of times.

  • Welp I must be the only one he’s never blocked.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Liger has officially mastered the art of Blocking no jutsu.NO ONE IS SAFE!!

  • Whatever.

  • If you’re going to block him for having opinion it’s not right everyone should have their opinions respected

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That was like a year ago. And it was temporary, and slightly hilarious.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah you’re such a wonderful guy.I remember when you banned me.

  • wait I banned you? when!?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You’re losing the game then.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    How dare he ban you. What’d you do

  • Probably~

  • SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!

  • A objectively bad animator

    When i said that fanfiction was better than whatever anime you an Neko were watching.

  • Exactly. At least with blocking you can still talk to other people. I do not see the post made by people I blocked. Much better option than simply running to Dawn and complaining to her about my “triggering” words.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m not gonna lie, it was both by my desire to stop Liger from bothering people as well as my desire to see him mad that I did that, and the resulting fallout has been amazing. He’s so mad at me for it, even though it was still totally up to Dawn/the Saiyan Island staff whether or not they banned him.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Already am I hearing about you blocking people just cause you’re too much of a child to handle a opinion. And I just got on.

  • Okay then.

    Sunday

    You can thank Gen for that Ahtma.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Inb4 block.

  • ……….ohhhh, you deserved it :3

  • A objectively bad animator

    🙁

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Dammit Gen.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He did ??

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I was blocked literally because I trash talked Toyotaro’s artwork with actual, real criticism and it made him mad enough to block me for three days.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Crikey I’ve been spotted

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hey now, don’t pick on my boy Linger.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Got un-banned the next day though.Cause i was a good boy.

  • Okay then. That’s your choice if you want to block me.

  • I was imitating a monster truck commercial! Do not blame me!

  • Sorry though.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Ouch.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    God !!!! I’m letting you win, I should start getting blocked from Liger more !!!

  • SilentSaiyan

    Who said anything about me blocking you? I don’t sink that low just because of a opinion lol.

  • The point is that you should have done that in a new post.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You never apologized for banning me

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Lel

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    First off, I’m definitely ahead of all of you.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It’s fine.I was being a little offensive too.I took the joke too far, sorry.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Me too ;-;

  • No the lowest is getting someone banned from the site for their opinion. Which is what Ahtma did.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Instant way to get blocked by Liger: “Toyotaro can’t do in a month what Toriyama could do in a week.” Also bring up that Toyotaro still can’t draw necks.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ahtma >>>>You

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    This is sweet

    now kiss

  • How many times did he block me?

  • At least I do not go that low.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hellll no

  • Piss off

  • Don’t tell me what to do!

  • I’VE NEVER BANNED YOU!

  • A objectively bad animator

    Ahtma is so good he get’s banned without even trying to troll him.

  • SilentSaiyan

    How so?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Sit down boy. I got blocked and I wasn’t even trying.

  • What!? when’d I ban you!?

  • SilentSaiyan

    Idk about the neck part, but that “Toyotaro can’t do in a month what Toriyama could do in a week.” is facts.

  • A objectively bad animator

    We are no longer friends.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Anyone see how bad the necks in the latest DBS chapter looked like? I wish they brought back Toriyama to do the art, Toyatoro can’t even compare to Tori’s skills as an artist and a writer.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    …..you even forgot that you did ;-;!!!

  • still no name yet?

  • Tsuna Sawada

    You could also say Super is better than gt
    Minato is not a senju

  • Those pictures freaked me the hell out.
    Forward Neck Posture is freaky and shouldn’t be drawn on DBZ characters.

  • I have no idea!!!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You definitely banned him at least once.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    pbs.twimg.Com/media/C29fHXVXEAA_nji.jpg
    gyazo.Com/974a6861658eef64a079e8bac5f358f8.png
    gyazo.Com/ab9518116dcfaea4c77af8f8b450f289.png

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Really? Huh alright.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Apologize then !!!!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    <3

  • FireTruck! I never saw how ugly they looked.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It’s not just the posture.Necks just don’t look like that.

  • Uh…sorry for not knowing that I banned you?

  • One small aspect. Necks this, necks that. Are you a neck man or something?

  • This is a lie

  • SilentSaiyan

    Lmao, the dbz characters skipped neck day.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It was Popo who banned you i think.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    <3.

  • I knew it!

  • I know.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Oh good sir, I am intrigued, please, do tell the reasons for blocking Ahtma I love to hear it from you.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m sorry for banning you.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You banned me one time just cause we were arguing about something!!!!
    At least Soul never did that!!!

  • ………….WTH POPO!

  • He was triggered by my defense of Trump and went to Dawn. Got banned for 48 hours I believe.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It’s also too clean for my liking.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Lol oops sorry.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    *Constant spam of your defense of trump.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You weren’t there when it happened…that was before you even found MAU

  • SilentSaiyan

    Nvm I found it “He was triggered by my defense of Trump and went to Dawn. Got banned for 48 hours I believe.”

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s a sign of poor drawing. The art is 60% of the story in the manga.

  • A objectively bad animator

    What a nice guy.Which Soul was like this too.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Who in the sam hell is Dawn? Dawn from Pokemon?

  • If you ferk over one part of the human body, the human eye will notice.

  • Dawn’s the owner of SI

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah I should be the permanent mod for MAU tbh. Soul is a dictator.

  • Admin of this site.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Thanks.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m Dawn.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Popo

  • I am not ashamed of the dictator title.

  • Wth, I apologized to you and you take Popo’s side? ;-;

  • A objectively bad animator

    My alt.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You damn Fascist.

  • I do not even notice it. Heck there are saying the neck is too long even though compared to mine it looks fine.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Meanwhile, here’s the exact same screenshot I sent Dawn when I reported him:

    i.imgur.Com/s5chJY9.jpg

    His defense really does leave out quite a bit.

  • A objectively bad animator

    You need to get that neck checked.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He’s my boy. My other half. Along with Ahtma, Asta, Gent and sometimes Gen.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He’s Popo’s student….whatdid you expect from him

  • I doubt that…

  • SilentSaiyan

    TL;DR. I will just take it as Liger being Liger and that he got banned for good reasons lol.

  • Gengen is a wild card

  • I am a tall person so having a bit of a long neck is par for the course.

  • You were gonna ban Tet for arguing with you, I took the flak because of youuu

  • A objectively bad animator

    No healthy human being’s neck should look like Vegito’s on the images below.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Says the guy who bans people cause they argue with him

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Liger talks extremely feverish politics. Everyone tells him to stop. He doesn’t. Acts like he can do and says whatever he wants. I tell him I’m contacting Dawn. I contact Dawn, he gets banned for a little bit.

  • …..My god I complain about story lore and these guys complain about necks. What is next in the Twilight Zone.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Then he goes on a blocking spree

  • Alexander Cabot

    I wish but Toriyama’s current artstyle is basically nothing compare to what it was during at his peak.

  • Twilight is terrible.

  • A objectively bad animator

    What is there to say about the story?It’s literally just the anime but less cinematic because it’s a comic.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I like his current art style. It’s different, but it’s changed positively. He relies more on conveying form and rounded lines than he did in his peak.

  • SilentSaiyan

    I must be pretty unlucky cuz im not blocked yet kek.

  • A objectively bad animator

    I think it’s cute.Not as good as his saiyan saga and namek saga work but i really like it.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah but it was Tet. He was asking for it.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    you’re not trying hard enough then

  • A objectively bad animator

    If someone as irresponsible as Popo gets to be a mod then i want to be one too.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hey now I only successfully did that once.

  • …………..

  • SilentSaiyan

    Wait a second, I feel like I remember this whole liger politics and being banned, because I remember that EXACT post where Ahtma said that he was happy hillary didn’t win.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Popo is already god of SI

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If Aalon didn’t save me maybe I would still be banned you son of a…!!!!!!

  • A objectively bad animator

    We are talking about places much more important than this.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ok wow. As soon as I get mod I’m banning you.

  • A objectively bad animator

    🙁

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Then I’ll ban Asta for posting about non-Dragon Ball anime, and Yuuna for liking the Class Rep.

  • …………

  • And that’s why you shouldn’t be a mod…

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It was about 5 months ago.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You’re unbanned now. I’m sorry mini-me

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    And of course you’ll get banned too.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Heartless!!!

  • A objectively bad animator

    “mini”?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Guess what. You just got future banned.

  • I’m unbannable

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m like 95% sure I’m older than you.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    For now.

  • I’ll come back, stronger than ever before.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    DAAAAAAAYUUUM

  • Alexander Cabot

    But I dont.
    His characters are too scrawny

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah your getting banned.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I promise that one day I’m going to ban you….That’s my ninja way

  • Gen’s a mod right now, he can ban you 🙁

  • ….

  • Nah, he really is. Lame how he gets immunity just because he’s the admin

  • A objectively bad animator

    I’m actually 40 btw.

  • -Fortresst has tried

  • Huehuehueh, a dictator should have priveleges

  • SilentSaiyan

    Give Liger some time, besides…he hasn’t blocked you on playstation has he? xD

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He doesn’t have me on PS+.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Oh well.

  • Tsuna Sawada

    Wait liger is blocking on psn?

  • You should transfer that admin-ship over to me for a bit…

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Wow rude. Just because I’m probably older.

  • Don’t you have your own ship though?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I didn’t do anything he can’t ban me.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No. Or at least, to my knowledge he isn’t.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I really feel like the only reason his characters were so buff was that it was an era of shonen post-Fist of the North Star and the ideas of masculinity were still alive in the 80s and 90s, though by the end of the 90s it had lost that aesthetic. Even compared to Buu saga Toriyama was starting to slim down his characters compared to Namek/Androids/Cell.

  • @GeneralUzumaki:disqus

  • Nah, I sunk that ship a short while back, Discord is more efficient for what it’s purpose was for.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Fort is a good guy I think. He’ll just make the page better.

    Do it Soul!!!!

  • Denied

  • See, do it for the people

  • I’d probably just pass it onto Popo and call it a a day tbh

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Commie !!!

  • You threatened over 80% of MAU. I could definitely ban you.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Of all people who you could have chosen…

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m 41.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Damn your good.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m gonna make my own site, invite everyone over, and then ban him there. That’ll show him.

  • Okay that thing about me giving you the site? I’m scrapping it.

  • So that’ll fall to me then?

  • *Hanabi

  • Yeah sure, whatever floats your boat.

  • ^ this man knows what’s up

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Wait no. You should still give me the site. I’d make a great admin

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    So since a half of you is Linger and the other one is me doesn’t that make you Albanian 🙂

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    But we’re Super Sons buddies. You’re Jon and I’m Damian.

  • Albania doesn’t exist, neither do Albanians

  • A objectively bad animator

    If you give it to me i’ll ban Popo.

  • That’s what @P0PO:disqus told me though

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If you give it to me I ban both 😉

  • Pffft, He could do that now.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah but it’s better when i do it.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ew no. You guys are just half black now.

  • Which proves I could snuff you out in a second.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    But Popo is Albanian tho

  • Wouldn’t be as satisfying to him.

  • Silly Gent, Popo doesn’t exist, he’s just a wild delusion conjured by us to troll Liger

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Not with my Kryptonite birdarangs.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What a reliable source

  • A objectively bad animator

    Popo’s significant half banning him will satisfy Soul to no end.

  • Only your dady has those.

  • Significant half? when did you tie the knot with Popo?

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Wow after everything we’ve been through, you’ll betray me just like that.

    I’ve thought you well my son.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Shhh

  • Didn’t knew you swung that way.
    Got some relationship issues my friend.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No one knows…it just happened

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Y’all better be nice to me.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It’s complicated.

  • A objectively bad animator

    You are half of him too you snob.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Popo likes 17…..

  • A objectively bad animator

    And you better like him too.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Neverrr!!!

  • A objectively bad animator

    That choice is not up to you.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    that’s why if I’m being a mod I’ll ban you, also you hate Yamamuro

  • A objectively bad animator

    @P0PO:disqus

    I can find a better 17 pic for you if you want.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ooh that’d be nice

  • A objectively bad animator

    pbs.twimg.Com/media/C29aw4tXAAAVMVr.jpg

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What is wrong with his neck.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toyotaro drew him.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yamamuro>>>>>Tori>>>>>>Toyotaro

  • A objectively bad animator

    He has a severe case of Toyotaromyalgia Rheumatica.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m gonna be honest. I didn’t read the latest chapter yet so I don’t know what the whole neck thing was about regarding it.

    But if it’s anything like that… yikes.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Are you seriously placing Yamamuro above Toriyama?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s one of his older pictures, from his DBAF manga.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No lel. But better than Toyotaro yes

  • A objectively bad animator

    It’s not as bad but it’s still pretty bad.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yamamuro can at least draw necks.

  • From where is that one from? Because last time I check the Heroes manga was being made by someone else.

  • A objectively bad animator

    AF.

  • LOL

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I thought you loved AF

  • That was from his AF manga

  • SilentSaiyan

    Basically Toyotaro can’t draw for crap.

  • I still can laugh at these mistakes though. Also SS5 was a unique concept that came from someone using Japanese lore about the Sacred Albino Monkey.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Then laugh at the Super Manga too.

  • A objectively bad animator

    “Sacred Albino Monkey” cracks me up.I don’t know why i find it so funny.

  • I do. Just not at the art but the jokes in it lol.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s also pretty incorrect, considering the classic picture of SSJ5 (red skin, white fur, super muscles, etc.) was really just a fan character with no specific form attached to it from a Spanish fan magazine.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Also even if it’s based on the Albino monkey Toytaro wasn’t the one who originally designed him.It was some spanish guy.

  • Do not forget that today we see gameplay for Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black, Zamasu and Bojack in Xenoverse 2 on the live stream at 9PM EST, 8 PM CST, 7 PM MST and 6 PM PST.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    If you could bring back the saiyan tail, what unique properties would you give it so it would be relevant?

  • Who took the lore from the Albino Monkey. Like seriously have you not read up on it?

  • …..Well you know my answer.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Considering you’re the only guy on the internet that talks about the Albino monkey, no i haven’t.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Make it stronger so Goku can choke Gohan with it.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Funny thing is he also doesn’t seem to know that Japanese macaques, “snow monkeys,” actually aren’t albino monkeys.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Lol

  • Yep lol.

  • A objectively bad animator

    “Funny thing is he also doesn’t seem to know that Japanese macaques, “snow monkeys,” actually aren’t albino monkeys.”

    -Ahtma

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Lol smh

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No more changing into a monkey, they just use it to grab stuff and choke people out. Also the only ones who have it are Goten, Trunk, Pan and Bulla.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Add in more combat involving it. Only time we ever saw someone use a monkey tail to attack was Raditz.

  • ..Right.

  • A objectively bad animator

    I’m sure Ahtma is more knowledgeable than you when it comes to animals.Hes genuinely smart.

  • I do not understand why they do not bring it back. Toriyama doesn’t even draw that much in comparison to when he did weekly chapters and he has someone else to do the work for him.

  • You’re a albino monkey.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    A blue oozaru doesn’t look cool

  • Yet he somehow knew THAT is where the dude got it from? Right.

  • A objectively bad animator

    The tail would probably look bad if Toytaro were to draw it.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You should unblock me.

  • A objectively bad animator

    How do you know where the dude got it from?

  • He has you blocked? What happened?

  • Make it a instrument in a fight. A more Primal Saiyan using it to grab a opponent’s neck and he spins to slam the guy to the ground.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ohh the usual. I said something he didn’t like.

  • Because the dude is a fan of Japanese so he would have study the cultures that inspired DB in the first place.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Yeah combatant for the tail would be a nice touch.

    I on the other hand would add that feature to but also give it a boost in agility, senses, and speed, about 5x that of their normal. I also would add the increase of the ssj transformation, with some minor changes to each form. Bringing back ss2 and three.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Any source?

  • Well at least he didn’t ban you for it.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    How he’s doing with necks hope he doesn’t do tails

  • You are one salty man.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    No it would no but, a primal super saiyan would look cool.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    ROASTED!!!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I love how petty you are.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Not in the slightest.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Also make it stronger so enemies won’t simply cut it

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Also here’s the source of where the original SSJ5 pic is.

    thedaoofdragonball.Com/blog/fans/dragon-ball-af-origin-revealed/

    There’s nothing in Japanese mythos that would connect this depiction to some kind of legend about macaques. All monkeys were were sometimes the company of Raijin, and then also the “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” monkeys. Even then, the macaques depicted in the original sculpture for that had brown fur.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Don’t lie to me 😉

  • From an old spanish interview that I forgot about. Finding that now will take months lol. Doesn’t matter anyway we should find out what made Toyotaro use the whole “white monkey” theme for his version of SS5.

  • He isn’t.

  • Hahahaha, he’s going to use it against you now.

  • A objectively bad animator

    “Also here’s the source of where the original SSJ5 pic is.

    thedaoofdragonball.Com/blog/fans/dragon-ball-af-origin-revealed/

    There’s nothing in Japanese mythos that would connect this depiction to some kind of legend about macaques. All monkeys were were sometimes the company of Raijin, and then also the “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” monkeys. Even then, the macaques depicted in the original sculpture for that had brown fur.”

    -Ahtma

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Five months later and he still can’t let go of it.

  • @P0PO:disqus says you should unblock him

  • Hey you got off lucky. He will unblock you once he calms down. I guarantee it okay?

  • SilentSaiyan

    Welcome to the Salty Splatoon, how salty are you?

  • Except it isn’t a japanese lore. Think about Journey to the West and it’s lore behind it. Try finding it there.

  • A objectively bad animator

    But SS5 was created by a Spanish guy, not Japanese.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    SS4 and being able to control SS3 better.

  • Hey the truth is the truth. If you want salty then the guy who banned me because my words triggered him for no reason. That is the ultimate salty squid.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Seeing as you like ss4 what if the tail could make the saiyans have a primal state simular to ss4, with the help of the blunts wave. From ssj their hair grows slightly to the back, giving it a ponytail, their eyes turn yellow and sharp teeth. Ss2 hair would look just like ss4 but with pointy ears.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I was just thinking abou5 that

  • You know in Super I do not see the problem with controlling SS3. Goku seems to handle it just fine.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I blocked him?

  • SilentSaiyan

    You sir, I can get behind, I like the the truth, and the truth is, #AhtmaDidNothingWrong, amirite.

  • Apparently

  • That seems natural.

  • Who did his research and found out about the lore behind it. Why do you think people mostly as in 95% use white for their version of SS5? Because the lore behind the Albino Monkey can really be something that could have exist in the Journey to the West book.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    So it doesn’t drain a lot of stamina anymore? And it would be cool to see more SS3 characters.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵘᶰᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I mean, if we’re thinking in quantitative value, you were way more triggered then I was considering you’re blocking me for three days (four if it’s lasting til Sunday) but you were only banned for two.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Toytaro didn’t even show his version of SS5.The manga ended before it.So how do you know what Toytaro’s SS5 looks like?

  • So if I banned you by informing Dawn about something you did then you will use #LigerDidNothingWrong?

  • Nice try come again.

  • Ahtma said:

    I mean, if we’re thinking in quantitative value, you were way more triggered then I was considering you’re blocking me for three days (four if it’s lasting til Sunday) but you were only banned for two.

  • Go watch Heroes. Plenty of SS3 characters there.

  • Hider Xera

    It smells like straight cow shitt in front of my college

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Ok it’s done, don’t even know how that happen

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Hello friendo.

  • Weird I thought he did. Let me check.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Manure, the smell of Spring.

  • (Hima)Kakashi’s Reincarnation

    No… I want canon SS3’s

  • A objectively bad animator

    @ahtma:disqus

    Any idea who animates the DB Heroes trailers?

  • Hider Xera

    The smell of ass and this Florida heat ain’t helping.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵘᶰᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He saw it. This is a sock puppet I made in a few minutes.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵘᶰᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Toei. They typically get lower quality animators for it.

  • SilentSaiyan

    I f Liger wasn’t a complete nutcase who didn’t know when to stop when multiple people told him on here and someone actually had the balls to quit listening to politics on a anime fan site and get an admin to ban a person who would then later 5 months rage about and block that very said same person and complain about to this very day……then yes I would lol.

  • Here it is. It’s in the background but you can tell he was going for the White long haired SS4 type of transformation in SS5.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yeah they are pretty bad.My guess originally was Yamamuro or Takeo Ide but i guess they could just hire some free-lance or some mediocre animator for it.

  • vignette3.wikia.nocookie.Net/dbaf/images/7/7c/DBAF_Vol1.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20120406150555

    Oops forgot the link lol.

  • Where’s my thank you?

  • Aalon

    Who gives a f%&k. Tails are boring and unnecessary.

  • In your left pocket.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    2.bp.blogspot.Com/-u5cN_cBTVeo/T-O9om7fFsI/AAAAAAAAApY/L-VjrVcOS8w/s1600/03.jpg

    It is nearly identical to the Spanish fanart.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    This is for those who likes the tails

  • A objectively bad animator

    From that i seems like a rip off of the Spanish version.He probably didn’t put any thought into it.

  • Aren’t the the sole animators for Dragon Ball?

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Hell9

  • A objectively bad animator

    Wow that looks bad…

  • Actually here is a better version.

    2.bp.blogspot.Com/-Svv8iaY-Gy8/T2GN0u_LJPI/AAAAAAAAAjE/LCcWCWb3zQk/w1200-h630-p-nu/Dragon+Ball+AF+Toyble+Covers.jpg

  • Anthony_weaver86

    *hello

  • We have tail bones. And at or point they were necessary. Think positive.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ha, Florida heat. I’m in Mass. for college right now, and it’s like 50 degrees.

  • Hider Xera

    I can’t really think of anything. They really are just aesthetic.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I misunderstood the question and thought he asked if it was still the same company, but he meant individual animators. Yeah, they are.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    You’re welcome.

  • sunava.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    What’s your thoughts on the topic I made?

  • A objectively bad animator

    That actually looks worst than the one Ahtma linked.

  • Your welcome, my welcome, his welcome.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They should only bring tails back so they can spice up the combat scenes. But If they were to do a new transformation, make it so it doesn’t look anything like SS4.

  • Hider Xera

    I hope global warming fcks that place up first

  • Yeah but Super Saiyan Rosé is a ripoff of another fan artist’s work and I do not see people complain to Toriyama.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Look at dat neck boii.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Gooo away

  • A objectively bad animator

    That’s not even a neck anymore.That’s practically his back.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I would also give it to Vegeta, seeing as he knows more about the tail and his heritage

  • Stahp.

  • I’m not going anywhere. I’m like your conjoined twin. Together forever.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    U-unbelievable! Super Saiyan 5 removes the neck for maximum power!

  • A objectively bad animator

    Did i complain to Toyotaro about his version of SS5?No i didn’t.So don’t bring up SSR.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Huh, using an alternate account. Great idea. Truly shows how brilliant your mind is, and only those of an equal caliber mind would think of doing something similar.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Well read down the comments we made some really good ideas

  • …………..

  • Trying too hard.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I did it to DI for a little bit before I got bored of it. It was funny.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’m juuuust saying.

  • So instead of simply blocking me which would have stop people from seeing my posts(like I did with you Ahtma) he instead ran to Dawn. Basically no one likes my words so ban me instead of simply blocking which is what you normally do you would go get me banned.

    You guys have problems with me simply blocking Ahtma but yet you had no problems even celebrated when I was banned thanks to Ahtma’s actions.

    That my friend is call hypocrisy.

  • But you did. You said and quote: “seems like a RIP OFF of the Spanish version”. That is a criticism which is another word for complaint.

  • SilentSaiyan

    It’s not hypocrisy if the ban was deserved, and how is Ahtma blocking you, stopping everyone else looking at your posts and telling you to stop, It wasn’t just ahtma.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Because it is?SSR is a rip off of previous fan art as well.What point are you trying to make?

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I told liger it should give them a primal state and the other 2 ssj form such as ss2 abd 3 would be relevant to use, and the hair style would look like ss4.

  • Believe it or not it is the same people who make DB Super anime.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Yamamuro?He doesn’t do much actual animation, hes only animated in three episodes so far.He mostly just designs characters.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    You know what, out of all the forms the oozaru seem to have less side effects, I could be wrong but it seem like it was perfectly balanced. The only down side was the whole loosing your tail

  • I said people as in more than one.

  • That and SS2 as well.

  • Even though Toriyama stated that saiyans can regenerate their tails when they are stress or fear or in serious life threatening danger.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    True

  • You brought up Politics so you deserved it at that time. Block ahtma was stupid.

  • A objectively bad animator

    It doesn’t look like the work of anybody on the series.Besides, Toei has a habit of not making animators work on more than one thing(with rare exceptions)

  • Anthony_weaver86

    I thought they could only do that when they were still young, like a child regrow ingredients it’s tooth

  • That is because they had more time to animate it. Those trailers comes out once every other month.

  • I need a PlayStation Plus card ASAP!

  • Nope it is life threatening danger. Even though Toriyama didn’t practice what he preaches.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Do you have the credits?

    My biggest guess so far is Takeo Ide since he doesn’t seem to be doing much.

  • Go to Amazon and buy it digitally online.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Ah

  • A objectively bad animator

    I’m assuming you don’t.

  • Can’t right now

  • It’s tragic how underused the form was in the series.

  • That is because they do not give credits to trailers. It’s just Toei that provides it.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Indeed, though the manga did make Trunks stronger than ss3 with his ss2. But that wasn’t enough

  • I lowkey suck at Xenoverse 2 that’s what I get for not playing game.

  • …..Then why do you need it now?

  • I think that was from training with the Z sword if I’m not wrong but yeah it was really underused.

  • A objectively bad animator

    So what made you think that the people who worked on Super also worked on it?

  • I’ll just wait for tomorrow.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Well regardless how he got that strong it most likely was tge same result as how Gohan went ss2, just stronger. Sigh I really wish we saw super oozaru, ss2 and ss3 be more relevent, wouldn’t mind a ss2b or 3, but no blue oozaru

  • Because they are the only ones that animate anything Dragon Ball. Like seriously dude look at the intro of Super. The quality is like that.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Nah, even in the old days they still did that. Masayuki Uchiyama worked on season zero of Yugioh.

  • A objectively bad animator

    Anyone at Toei can animate Dragon Ball, freelancers come and go all the time.

    And the intro of Super is objectively animated better than any DB Heroes trailer.

  • I’VE HAD ENOUGH! The Yamcha manga chapter 2 won’t be coming out

  • That is because they only had to do it once and do minor changes for later arcs.

  • So the whole thing was just one chapter? Man that is sad. It was an interesting concept.

  • A objectively bad animator

    That doesn’t change the fact that they are worst.

  • Toei works on Yugioh?

  • A objectively bad animator

    Well, Uchiyama is fairly fast.Didn’t he do solo episodes at some point in Z?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    They did one season of it in the late 90s.

  • They better release it ASAP!

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    In and around Androids and Cell, yeah.

  • Interesting

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It’s actually really good, definitely more exciting to watch than Duel Monsters over and over.

  • Facts

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It got canceled?

  • No

  • Rojai

    I created that manga

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Anyone read xmen blue or gold

  • A objectively bad animator

    God please no.

  • It’s not getting cancelled!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Not yet. Heard they were good though

  • Rojai

    Yes, it’s so epic

  • Anthony_weaver86

    Which one do you like the most, I prefer blue

  • People are saying Super might get a time skip in the next arc. Let’s hope it’s true

  • Rojai

    I like blue too

  • Rojai

    Skip*

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Did you actually read it?

  • Whoops

  • Rojai

    Yeah, it’s actually pretty good

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yamamuro it’s not bad!!

  • A objectively bad animator

    17 and 18’s enhancements were bio-organic, for anyone wondering how they can still get stronger.

    abload.De/img/cellsagaxyz2i.png

  • Thanks! Linger

  • Rojai

    Your name is wrong

  • A objectively bad animator

    No.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Well then it kinda makes sense now.
    (Still fighting my boi Goku SsB is stoopid tho)

  • Rojai

    An*

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    An objectively bad animator*

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Those implants made two humans both stronger than Frieza’s final form and Super Saiyan Vegeta, just saying.

  • Anthony_weaver86

    It is, more on blue through gold is okay

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    IDGAF my boi goku is a god …and 17 is lame.

  • An objectively bad animator

    Huh, what are you talking about?It’s always been an “An”

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Also *good*

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    uploads.disquscdn.Com/images/49c3a7b60908d2e51e7faea2344b9e3f50f9b2c6413fc54069e70823d6f58e3f.jpg

  • SilentSaiyan

    And hopefully those people who even brought up Uub and Android 17 theory be quiet.

  • An objectively bad animator

    Nice Photoshop.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s the thing, on an objective basis Yamamuro isn’t good.
    Compare:

    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/25198

    to

    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/17814

  • Eh, I still don’t buy it, considering the whole ki thing, being that they don’t have it.
    But it’s whatevs, not like it matters.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    My boi wasn’t trying.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I thought they had unlimited ki, but for some reason it couldn’t be sensed.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No, this is typical of literally almost all of his work post-2000. Flat angles, bad movement, poor camera, etc.
    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/25199

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Shut your mouth boy.

  • Think it was unlimited stamina, ki is life energy

  • I’ll pimp slap YO ASS!

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ahh ok, that makes sense.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    SLAP MY D….!

  • SilentSaiyan

    I swear it was unlimited ki.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    This gets kind of mucked up because of how the translation and localization of Dragon Ball got handled, but Gero as well as 19 both don’t refer to ki as ki, but as “energy,” which gets treated as a separate term (whereas in the Japanese version they exclusively refer to it as ki). Energy is presumably similar to ki but is artificially produced, hence why they can’t sense it.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    This looks good

  • SilentSaiyan

    That’s why 18 was able to keep shooting at Super 17.

  • It’s not that hard to understand 17 was training and Gorky was holding back.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    If japanese refer it as ki it is ki. English dub is non canon and sh1t… shut up now

  • Maybe it was, haven’t cared much about Dragon Ball in a long time

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Compare that to this:
    sakugabooru.Com/post/show/31503

    Yamamuro’s work is really flat and stale.

  • Don’t know what you’re referencing here

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yeah comparing a major fight with a minor one where tien is beating frieza soilders..good example

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    GT.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No, what I was saying was that in the Japanese version Gero and 19 refer to ki as “energy,” while the rest of the cast only use ki.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Don’t see where you got this energy thing that it’s different. Or you just pulled that sh1t from your ass , cause I can’t find nothing for it

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Energy is Ki tho that’s how I remember it but whatever

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That’s not even a major part of the fight against Tien. Also the part where Tien’s fighting the soldiers is still an actively important part of the movie’s action, as he takes center stage multiple times.

  • Makes no sense to me, if they can sense ki, or energy, then what should it matter it’s production.
    I mean I just feel like they pushed the Androids to be robotic and such, but as they progressed in the series they pulled away from that, and that just leaves so much confusion.

  • Ah, never watched past Episode 1

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Huh, really? And you haven’t seen Super either? You did watch the original Dragon Ball though right?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Also accordinf to wiki Androids have an unnatural source of ki so their ki cannot be sensed cause of that..

  • Of course, that’s the best

  • Oh wait, you asked 3 questions,
    Yes, really, didn’t enjoy it too much and was kinda over Dragon Ball at that point
    Yep, couldn’t even get past the first episode of Super, I’ve seen the major point that people have hyped up though, wasn’t very impressed.
    Of course, that’s the best

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Huh, so are you at all interested in the Universal Tournament? Cause Dragon Ball had the best tournaments, but the Universal Tournament seems like it’ll be fun.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Holding the manga in my hand right now. Vizbig’s 3-in-1 DBZ vol. 5. Page 139.

    “Remember this in battle, we can amplify what you call energy in one tremendous burst. What you stole from me just now was nothing.”

    This isn’t a mistranslation either, the awful quality fan scans for DB use a roughly similar translation.

    i.gyazo.Com/13ef0e653f331c6c4b039863021c5962.png

    In the Japanese version they always refer to their ki as “ki” spoken aloud. When Gero speaks or Piccolo quotes him, he uses the term “enagi,” or energy.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Inconsistent writing has always been a thing in Dragon Ball. Trunks returning to the main timeline around the same time they fight Gero makes absolutely no sense.

  • Hider Xera

    Remember when people wanted Super Saiyan God to look like a SSJ4, but Gold?

  • Not really, I’ll maybe see Tien’s fight, ‘cuz y’know it’s Tien, but that’s about all, not too interested in Dragon Ball Super

  • Hider Xera

    Anyone going to watch that DLC3 live stream?

  • Yea, I remember all the fan-art of that

  • Hider Xera

    Good times.

  • Elliott Blair

    It’s what should have been.

  • Elliott Blair

    Goes ssb to hold back? Shut up.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Not really. It would’ve been super unoriginal like that.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    That explains nothing…literally nothing

  • Elliott Blair

    Oh and hair turning another color is?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I am convinced you’re not actually reading my responses or your grasp of English is so tenuous every single one of my explanations that they go completely over your head.

  • Elliott Blair

    If that is legit art from the show I am disgusted.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    SSJG was more than just that. It completely changed Goku’s color palette on top of removing muscle mass, which was refreshing instead of just packing on spiky hair, muscle, fur and calling it a new form.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    The unshaded art is concept art from Toriyama.

  • Elliott Blair

    Sounds like you’re digging deep for a reason to justify it.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “We can amplify what you call energy ” so they use ki, and piccolo said that we can increase that….literally doesn’t explain that energy of androids is different from ki how you said. If I’m wrong please correct me then

  • Elliott Blair

    Thanks for clearing that up.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yes, my opinion is digging deep because it doesn’t align with yours.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “We can amply what you call energy.” Ki and energy are different for very minor reasons, namely ki is all life energy but “energy” as 19 and 20 refer to it is both ki and artificial energy they can produce.

  • Yomi

    I don’t know why people think it’s some self reliant illustration or something? Just a design he handed the studio. Lel. Why should he do anything more but the bare minimum?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Tori is old now. He just drawed that drawing like for 2 minutes , if he actually tried it would look better.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I wanted. I still do , that sh1t was dope

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    SSB,SSrose, and SSG??

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He deliberately leaves the concept art simple and easy to reference from, also so the character designers can make their own interpretations of it easier. When he actually puts effort into illustrations you end up with stuff like this:

    i.imgur.Com/3v5YQQ7.jpg

  • Chill Out!

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    SSB I don’t have words for really but SS Rose works because it’s in conjunction with Goku Black. A black rose, symbolizing toxic beauty, which is exactly the kind of narcissism that Goku Black/Zamasu are obsessed with. SSG is the opposite of the Saiyans being violent, and instead of making Goku more angry and musclebound, it makes him more calm and takes muscle away.

  • Yomi

    Looks like he combined his Dragon Ball, and Z style and threw in a bunch of Dragon Quest. Either way, I’d say it’s a pretty cool style. It’s a shame Super is still going with that retro look.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    So Piccolo can use that kind of energy androids use? “What you call energy” This literally explains that Dr.Gero just calls Ki , Energy . dragonball.wikia.Com/wiki/Ki
    “Ki (気; pronounced “Kee”), also known as chi/qi, Yōki (妖気)[1] or simply energy (エネルギー, enerugī)”

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I would really like to see something animated specifically with his modern style in mind. Tate would do great things with it considering it’s more simplistic and reliant on form.

  • Yomi

    And like Tate the hair isn’t 82 feet tall. A nice touch of realism; but you know those “ran home from school to watch broly on Toonami” fellows wouldn’t like that.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Still they look the same . SSG is just Goku more thiner with red hair, SSB is literally SS recolored also SS rose is re colored SS too, just cause it simbolizes something doesn’t make it more original.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No. Artificial humans produce energy, which is similar to ki but doesn’t have a presence because it’s artificial in nature. I keep stressing that it’s only a minor distinction.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Proof? Or just your head canon ?

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    When you boil literally anything down to simplistic terms like that you can take the piss out of anything. Super Saiyan 2 is literally just Super Saiyan with spikier hair and lightning.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I’ve literally provided all the proof that I have. The fact that there is infact a spoken distinction between them in the source material, and the fact that energy produced from cyborgs cannot be felt out.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yup SS2 is a SS with spikier hair and lighting. But still more original than just a recolor, at least it is more spikier lel.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    By this virtue SSG is more original because it does more than just change hair.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Well you had nothing lel

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I kind of did but you’re free to disagree.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Still unoriginal lel . I never said that SS2 was original. But saiyng that a SSJ4 Gold goku wouldn’t work cause it’s unoriginal it’s really wrong when literally Super is doing that now

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    What Super’s doing now isn’t SSG, that’s the thing. In the context of Battle of Gods, a gold SSJ4 Goku wouldn’t have looked good, especially from a lore standpoint because the last Super Saiyan God stood as against everything that the Saiyans were. SSJ4 is the distilled symbolism of everything that Saiyans are – violent, musclebound, impetuous, intimidating – while SSG is the complete opposite of that.

  • If you post the link then yes.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Maybe they would make and the conpet of the SSG different

  • I remember that one fan art but I thought it was stupid. At least the one we got was unique enough to be different unlike certain Smurf like transformation.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    The thing about it is that’s the concept of it as Toriyama was asked to write it. Yamamuro’s concept for SSG involved having muscles, a cape, and hair similar to SSJ3, but Toriyama was insistent on it not looking that far off from base.

  • Even though they were just normal humans.

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    We need muscles. And bigger, spikier hair. And no irises/pupils.

  • Maybe!

  • Hider Xera

    twitch.Tv/bandainamcous

  • Thanks!

  • Hider Xera

    Just doing my job

  • Good Job! You did good my son.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “Is Afro actually useful!?”

  • Goku Black Rose Is Freaking Awesome in Xenoverse 2

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yup . Maybe I’ll buy this

  • I’m buying it

  • Ahtma ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    He’s super aggro, holy crap.

  • Ye

  • Phatzub

    What did Rhy mean when he said 4 characters?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    IDK

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    I don’t like that Black is too OP

  • That’s good!

  • What the heck they started early?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    No it’s not cause that makes him unbeatable.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Did it stop ??

  • Wanna fight me in Xenoverse 2?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    So winning judt cause you have a better character than the other is right??

  • No

  • Hider Xera

    Sure

  • Hider Xera

    No it started at 4 pst which is 7 est. They even started like 5 minutes late.

  • Oh well. Seems Vegito is coming to DLC pack 4.

  • I’ll tell you when I go online

  • Hider Xera

    Okay

  • Hider Xera

    Yeah we already knew that though so no surprise.

  • WTF!!!?! Is what with SSR Goku Black’s name?

    Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black)

    Damn it Dimps WTF!?!

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “Ughhh Bye”

  • The ultimate naming is stupid lol.

    Goku Black Kamehameha Rosé

    Like seriously can you imagine someone saying all that?

    “Goku Black Ka me ha me HA!!!!!!…….Rosé”

    lol

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “Rose Kamehameha” would have been a better name

  • I know right? Did you see the name they gave SSR Black? Are BNE/Dimps treating us as retards to think we would not notice?

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Yes I did . But it’s nothing to worry about, it’s just the name

  • It’s just stupid that they do not want to at least update the game to change take the name “SSGSS” and call it “Super Saiyan Blue”. Heck an awakening is called “Super Saiyan BLUE Kaioken”.

  • Goku Black

    UGH! THEY UPDATED ME SO MUCH! -gets a sock- youtube(.)com/watch?v=cF7US6vENiE

  • Is the voice work fixed? Please tell me he doesn’t still sound like SS4 Goku.

  • Loaf・*。゚o。♥ ( ͡° ͟ʖ ͡°)

    It’s so weird seeing moves taken straight from the anime. I guess they do it with Z too, it’s just weird because of how recent everything was.

  • SilentSaiyan

    Lmao Dimps, keep this up and one day you will be the new EA.

  • …What do you mean?

  • Goku Black

    They knew. They got behind scenes.

  • Wasn’t the episode like last Summer?

  • You all are going to see massive improvement to all the Goku Black Rosé mods after this DLC drops.

  • Hider Xera

    Huh?

  • SilentSaiyan

    That dimps is still being kind of lazy and can do even better.

  • Hider Xera

    Actually according to Rhymestyle they don’t get any info on Super. They learn everything the same time we do.

  • True. Mods are going to have a field day come next week.

    While I might not like SSR Black but I do like his outfit. Glad that is being given to us as a PQ reward.

  • How long ago was Goku Black episodes?

  • SilentSaiyan

    I need to know what skills and things I can get for free from this DLC, because I’m broke.

  • …Not sure. The free DLC releases later so probably later next week or in early May.

  • Hider Xera

    Idk like November

  • Goku Black

    They finished xenoverse 2 before rose was shown.

  • Like?

  • Watch the Goku Black SSR DLC pack 3 videos.

  • Goku Black SSR now makes the mod versions obsolete. I don’t get what you’re trying to say.

  • You know the:
    SS4 Goku Black
    SSR3 Goku Black
    Gohan Black
    Vegeta Black
    Vegito Black

    You know all these.

  • Oh, those awful uninspired mods.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Ew AfroSenju.

  • Hider Xera

    The Black saga was still airing when Xenoverse 2 came out. I believe Rhymestyle since he actually talks to Dimps

  • Those sound like awful uninspired mods.

  • Popo ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Why would anyone want those awful uninspired mods?

  • Because it’s free on PC.

  • Hider Xera

    Also Rose was shown before Xeno 2 released

  • Hider Xera

    I’ve almost got the platinum trophy for Xenoverse 2 now ain’t that some shitt

  • I think the Pokemon anime gets there ideas from the fandom. A lot of memes about the Alolan Dugtrio was made. One in like Beatles like setting and they did just that in this weeks episode.

  • I had fun fighting Hider Xera!

  • Fuck:off.

  • Gent✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    How dare you

  • Enturax/Turbotrup

    Even aside that whether they can get stronger or not, he shouldn’t get THAT much stronger. He didn’t even have a proper training circumstances through those 5 years, unless you call beating a bunch of people in cars with some cannons/guns attached to them, a good training routine. Even kid Goku would beat them. Not to mention Trunks was training for 10(!) years so hard, as if his life was depending on it, and still wouldn’t give SSJB Goku that much of a fight… in theory, at least. And let’s not forget Trunks was already MUCH stronger than 17 in Cell arc.

  • An objectively bad animator

    Some people thought they couldn’t get stronger period.I’m not trying to justify 17 keeping up with SSB Goku.

  • Enturax/Turbotrup

    ok.

  • Rodrigo Monterier

    Goku is following the steps of his father